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echo: philos
to: RICHARD MEIC
from: NICK DOUGLAS
date: 1998-03-14 16:39:00
subject: Creationism

 RM> Salutatio Nick!
 RM> 06-Mar-98, Nick Douglas wrote to All
 RM>           Subject: Creationism
 ND> I just want to take this chance to say that I am a Creationist,
 ND> and a Christian. Any questions, comments, debates, or unfounded
 ND> attacks at my beliefs can be sent to me through this echo, or via
 ND> e-mail at  spriterules@juno.com. C-ya
 RM> Unfounded attacks?  That really is hilarious, Nick. 
 RM>  Okay,... you asked 
 RM> for it. 
 RM> 1) Creationism is often claimed to be a science.  When no science is 
 RM>    actually done.  (ie. observe, hypothesize, try to disprove through 
 RM>    experiment).  Thus, creationism is not a 
 RM> science, a popular idea many
 RM>    people like to think is truth, but is in no way 
 RM> substantiated by the 
 RM>    scientific method.  NOTE: there is no way to actually prove or 
 RM>    disprove creationism (the idea that everything 
 RM> was created by a god),
 RM>    and this makes all creationist arguments circular.
 RM>    
Okay, how about evolution? I find no way to prove that it exests. Granted
there are many near-convincing results, but I doubt their correctness.
I realize that you hold a healthy skepticism of my beliefs, and I respect
that. I'll discuss this privately some time. No one else sounds inter-
ested. Gotta go now!
 RM> 2) Creationism stems from a belief in "God".  The key word here is 
 RM>    "belief", which makes creationism a religion and 
 RM> has no place being 
 RM>    argued as a science.
 RM>    
 RM> DISCLAIMER:  When this argument becomes circular, 
 RM> which I expect it to 
 RM> rather quickly, I will end the argument by not 
 RM> replying to the thread (as
 RM> I have done in the past many times).
 RM> NOTE:  I do hope that you are not like many of the 
 RM> other "creationists"
 RM> that simply regurgitate the same old arguments. :)  
 RM> Originality is THE 
 RM> key.  ;)
 RM>  Dicere...
 RM>  email address (vrmeic@nucleus.com)
 RM> Richard Meic
C-ya! Bye!
 Nick Douglas
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