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to: RICHARD JORDAN
from: RICK NOLAN
date: 1998-03-30 23:33:00
subject: Direction of Echo

Hi Richard
27 Mar 98, Richard Jordan writes to Bob Sewell:
 > On Mar 26 18:32 98, Bob Sewell of 1:116/30.3 wrote:
Somehow I missed the first post ;-(
 BS>> Dia dhuit, Nancy.  Are you among those incorporating sequenced
 BS>> MIDI into their live music?  If so, (or anyone else reading this
 BS>> who does) how do you manage to keep the live elements of the band
 BS>> (i.e., the human factors) in sync with the MIDI?
[.]
 > well,
 > in any band, someone's got to lead,
 > so get some live human to lay down a track in midi,
 > humans generally don't play the music as written,
 > so rather than try to reproduce the sheetmusic
 > reproduce what is played.
 > after laying down the first track,
 > lay down any others using a live human playing in sync with the 1st
 > track or use tempo changes to match mechanical to the live you can
 > lenghten notes [or shorten] both time and or duration then you
 > practise to the midi track then you perform but, sequencing is rather
 > like playing an instrument, it takes practise before one is ready to
 > perform.
Right,there is almost no difference playing with live musicians or
a midi track,use the drums and you can't go far wrong,(except maybe
you don't have to drag the drummer off a bar stool between sets)
 BS>> 1) The sequencing problem.  We imperfect humans have that
 BS>> nasty       tendency to keep slightly imperfect tempos, but then
 BS>> you know       that.
 >
 > record your imprefect tempos on a midi keyboard
This is fairly basic musicianship :-( If you can't keep time,you
can't play,either sequenced or live.
 BS>> 2) How do you handle retards (no, not the drugged-out
 BS>> groupies) and       other tempo changes?
(drummers !)
 > tempo changes are part of most all sequencing progams these days,
 > but if you record from a keyboard, it will instead of showing tempo
 > changes, show longer and shorter notes [than what was written]
This is where you need to use the software to clean it up,but
the easy way is not to play it but enter it as notation.
 BS>> 3) Changing the song live from the rehearsed version, such as
 BS>> going       through the ending chorus an extra time or two, etc.,
 BS>> I suppose       is out of the question.  Any easy way to work
 BS>> pre-sequenced MIDI       around this?
Short answer,no..it can be done..providing you are not trying
to play an instrument at the same time....You can get round it by
having an extra chorus file or using a loop,making this work is
not easy without Ricks (TM) pedal system ;-)
Regards,
Rick
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