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from: Rich
date: 2003-06-27 22:44:22
subject: Re: Answer me this please?

From: "Rich" 

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   And on that I said that Windows Server 2003 does not show the logical =
view for another user.  I'm pretty sure Windows 2000 does.  I don't have =
a copy of Windows XP handy to see what it does.  You can try it yourself =
or you can keep whining.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:3efcea4f{at}w3.nls.net...
  I'm NOT talking about view properties, I'm taking about the directory =
it's
  showing you compared to the directory you asked to see. If I ask to =
see
  /rich/dir1 then I expect to see that and not /geo/dir1.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3efbbaac$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Since we never discussed access permissions I'll ignore the off =
topic
  mention of that.

     The shell extension associated with the temporary internet files =
folder
  un-obfuscated the intentionally obfuscated physical view and presents
  information not available from the file system like the URL being =
cached and
  the cache expiration time.  I can keep repeating this but it would =
help if
  you read what I wrote before you replied.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3efb80e7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I still don't understand. If I ask to see something I'm not allowed =
to see
    then I should get a "you aren't allowed" message and if I am allowed =
to
  see
    it then I should see it. Why would explorer "obfuscate" my view of =
my
    system, what kind of reasoning would lead to a behavior like that? =
This is
    what I don't understand.

    Geo. (I wasn't really directing the question at you, I was just =
asking a
    question that needs asking)

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3ef92524$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       This directory has a custom viewer that shows a logical view of =
the
    Internet cache and cookies instead of the intentionally obfuscated
  physical
    view.  It also adds information not stored with each file like the =
URL
    cached by that file and the cache expiration time.

       In Windows Server 2003 viewing another user's cache does not =
display
  the
    logical view.  In Windows 2000 I'm pretty sure it does.  I don't =
know
  about
    Windows XP.

       In any event, Mike's claims were bogus though it is not clear if =
this
  is
    due to his disregard for honesty or accuracy.

    Rich

      "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3ef8deab{at}w3.nls.net...
      Why would explorer show you someplace different from what you =
asked to
    see?

      Geo.

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:3ef8bd8d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
         That's particularly strange since cookies are not stored in =
that
      location.  Now if you tried looking with Explorer at that location =
for
      another account, you would see the contents of the temporary =
Internet
    files
      and cookies for your own account.

      Rich

        "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
      news:u6eefv8ulhlelnrsb37f5rl11afjjmcsqb{at}4ax.com...

        I can't answer your question, but when I went looking on my box =
(W2K
    SP2)
        I found a bunch of cookies in the Local Settings|Temporary =
Internet
    Files
        folder of the Administrator.  That's odd because I do not log in =
as
        Administrator on this box.

          /m


        On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:29:08 -0500, "Glenn Meadows"
    
        wrote:

        >Why would the Local Settings/Temp folder of the
  Administrator.
      have
        >24,575 folders in it, taking up 1.67gb of space?
        >
        >What creates items in that location?  I found copies of old
  Win95_X.cab
        >files scattered throughout.  Kept wondering where all my free =
space
  on
    C
      was
        >going, as it was creeping down everyday, and the log files were =
NOT
      filling
        >it up.
        >
        >How did I find it?  Mapped C of the server to my laptop, and =
ran
  Norton
        >Utilities System Info against it, and used the DRIVE tab to =
LOOK at
    what
      was
        >taking up space on the drive.
        >
        >24,575 folders, taking up 1.67 gb of space.




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   And on
that I said that =
Windows Server=20
2003 does not show the logical view for another user.  I'm pretty = sure=20
Windows 2000 does.  I don't have a copy of Windows XP handy to see
= what it=20
does.  You can try it yourself or you can keep =
whining.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:3efcea4f{at}w3.nls.net...I'=
m NOT=20
  talking about view properties, I'm taking about the directory =
it'sshowing=20
  you compared to the directory you asked to see. If I ask to =
see/rich/dir1=20
  then I expect to see that and not
/geo/dir1.Geo."Rich" =

  <{at}> wrote in message news:3efbbaac$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  Since we never discussed access permissions I'll ignore the off=20
  topicmention of that.  
The shell extension =
associated=20
  with the temporary internet files folderun-obfuscated the =
intentionally=20
  obfuscated physical view and presentsinformation not available =
from the=20
  file system like the URL being cached andthe cache expiration =
time. =20
  I can keep repeating this but it would help ifyou read what I =
wrote before=20
  you replied.Rich 
"Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:3efb80e7$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  I still don't understand. If I ask to see something I'm not allowed to =

  see  then I should get a "you aren't
allowed" message and if =
I am=20
  allowed tosee  it then I should see it. Why would =
explorer=20
  "obfuscate" my view of my  system, what kind
of reasoning =
would lead=20
  to a behavior like that? This is  what I don't=20
  understand.  Geo. (I wasn't really directing
the question =
at you,=20
  I was just asking a  question that needs =
asking)  "Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:3ef92524$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
    =20
  This directory has a custom viewer that shows a logical view of =
the =20
  Internet cache and cookies instead of the intentionally=20
  obfuscatedphysical  view.  It also
adds information =
not=20
  stored with each file like the URL  cached by that file and =
the cache=20
  expiration
time.     In
Windows Server =
2003=20
  viewing another user's cache does not
displaythe  logical =

  view.  In Windows 2000 I'm pretty sure it does.  I don't=20
  knowabout  Windows
XP.     In =
any=20
  event, Mike's claims were bogus though it is not clear if =
thisis =20
  due to his disregard for honesty or accuracy. =20
  Rich    "Geo."
<georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote in =
message news:3ef8deab{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;  =20
  Why would explorer show you someplace different from what you asked=20
  to  see?    =
Geo.   =20
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3ef8bd8d$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
      =20
  That's particularly strange since cookies are not stored in=20
  that    location.  Now if
you tried looking =
with=20
  Explorer at that location for   
another account, =
you would=20
  see the contents of the temporary Internet =20
  files    and cookies for your own=20
  account.    =
Rich     =20
  "Mike '/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
wrote=20
  in message    news:u6eefv8ulhl=
elnrsb37f5rl11afjjmcsqb{at}4ax.com...    &nb=
sp;=20
  I can't answer your question, but when I went looking on my box =
(W2K =20
  SP2)      I found
a bunch of cookies in =
the Local=20
  Settings|Temporary Internet  =
Files     =20
  folder of the Administrator.  That's odd because I do not log in=20
  as     
Administrator on this=20
 
box.       =20
 
/m<shrug>     
On Mon, 23 =
Jun 2003=20
  11:29:08 -0500, "Glenn Meadows"  <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net> =
    =20
 
wrote:     
>Why would the Local=20
  Settings/Temp folder of=20
 
theAdministrator.<Fsname>   =20
  have     
>24,575 folders in it, =
taking up=20
  1.67gb of space?     =20
  >     
>What creates items in that=20
  location?  I found copies of=20
 
oldWin95_X.cab     
>files =
scattered=20
  throughout.  Kept wondering where all my free =
spaceon =20
  C   
was      =
>going, as it=20
  was creeping down everyday, and the log files were =
NOT   =20
  filling      >it=20
  up.      =
>     =20
  >How did I find it?  Mapped C of the server to my laptop, and=20
 
ranNorton     
>Utilities System =
Info=20
  against it, and used the DRIVE tab to LOOK at =20
  what   
was      =
>taking up=20
  space on the drive.     =20
  >     
>24,575 folders, taking up =
1.67 gb=20
  of
space.

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