-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 JN>> The only thing I can't do using BW on a QWK system is add
 JN>> and delete message areas to scan. That has to be done
 JN>> while on-line.

 WC> MultiMail merely uses S for subscribe and U for unsubscribe
 WC> and it's worked on every board but one I've tried it on.
 WC> You just use L to open long listing and select and
 WC> unselect, each request goes up in the .REP packet and with
 WC> the next download you've got them.

 CA> I seem to recall that not being able to subscribe and
 CA> unsubscribe within a BW door was a limitation of the BW door?
 CA> Maybe not. It's been awhile since I used BW or it's door(s).

I merely select the QWK menu and all is well.
AAMOF this morning I downloaded my first corrupt QWK
packet in years and had to upload my previous QWK pointer file
recovered with undelete in order to see and reply to this
message. I like QWK. I _did_ mess around with BW for the 
trial period before YR2K but at that time was happy with 
freeware or at least thought freeware was better on the whole 
than the extras BW threw in at it's cost.

 CA> The maintainer of MM wrote a door, VALENCE?, but I don't see it
 CA> being used often and don't 'get around' to many BBS anymore
 CA> either.

 Not seen that one myself.
 
 WC> However I've not figured out how or if it's possible to set
 WC> message pointers somehow. Seems to me IIRC there was a
 WC> kludge for doing so offline but I may be wrong on that one.

 CA> I don't think there is/was. Again, not sure. I've not used the
 CA> ability to subscribe/unsubscribe offline for quite some time
 CA> and in ATP it has to be done manually. 
 
I'm _pretty_ sure I've done it with a kludge line in the message
body or subject line but can't say for sure.
I experimented a lot in my early days on the computer
and didn't take to a lot of what I tried even though it worked.
I miss the now extranious gateways and the kludge lines
required to go from Fidonet to Inet and back but it's been a while
since I've seen that on a BBS though now they generally just substitute
an e-mail address as yourname{at}bbs.com or whatever.

 CA> There is no automated
 CA> function for that even in the one I rewrote that I use daily. I
 CA> didn't have a need for that at the time. I could add it but am
 CA> not needing it now either.

 I've got to get around to installing ATP, I've snagged it
 but haven't yet installed it.

 CA> Many/most BBS sorely need a function to globally reset message
 CA> pointers to "date" and newer. Several BBS will reset message
 CA> pointers even on failed downloads which does still happen from
 CA> time to time. :-\

 You mean like on this mornings packet download 
 which contained your reply?
 It's your fault you done hexed the machine 
 Chowdanet has that rather scarce ability to reset message
 pointers either to date or back n number of messages globally.
 OTOH I just downloaded from COP in Norway where I hadn't been in 
 a time and the QWK packet ran almost three meg!
 Seems to me the kludge line, assuming there was one, went
 something like reset -nn. It's been a long time, if I did it at
 all it was but a few times and than still it could be a false
 memory.

 CA> Even new users might prefer to just scan FIDO from "date"
 CA> rather than go through the somewhat tedious chore of setting
 CA> each message area individually. 
 
telnet Chowdanet.com
This board allows precisely the reset option you desire
in the QWK menu _Y_our settings.

 CA> This process discourages me
 CA> from adding additional echos to my QWK downloads. I really
 CA> don't like the user-interface and avoid it if at all possible.

No big deal for me.
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