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to: Wayne Chirnside
from: Charles Angelich
date: 2003-01-22 21:35:14
subject: Re: BlueWave

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Hello Wayne - 

WC>> Still haven't figured out what Verizon mail wants for
WC>> authentication in SMTP despite many attempts. I've got to
WC>> figure out what file defines what is in the mail.conf file
WC>> and what Verizon's SMTP wants for authemtication. 

CA>> Lately many ISPs require that you use your POP3 access
CA>> before using SMTP in an attempt to discourage spamming. 

WC> The author of Basic Linux suggested the same, didn't work.
WC> There's a very brief message flashed on the screen error
WC> 553, I think that's the number, "authentication failure." 

It's been awhile now since I did this and I don't recall all
the names and command syntax required but I arranged to read the
log file from PPP as it was being written during the attempts
to authenticate. I did this by opening another window. I was
eventually able to find the problem but to be honest, I've
forgotten just what the problem was. :-\ 

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CA>> I've always found VI to be not logical. There is no
CA>> 'scent' that I can detect to follow the logic of what keys
CA>> do what and when. How anyone gets 'used' to VI is beyond
CA>> me. 

WC> I can easily understand that. How I originally became
WC> familiar was I was going to school with a real gung ho
WC> programmer and he tippped me to about 11 core commands of
WC> great power that made editing dead easy. The books are not
WC> at all intuitive. 

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WC> I made tremendous progress in weeks three and four into the
WC> C programming course. Was calling external files from
WC> functions, retrieving data, modifying external files,
WC> employing multidimensional arrays, ect. Pretty cool stuff
WC> but all I've got on disk is the first lousy simplistic
WC> couple of weeks of stuff :-( Damned administrator
WC> reconfigured the network so we couldn't access the A drive
WC> to save files or work at home making me wonder why all us
WC> students had blown around three grand on computers
WC> $YU%UY&$!!{at}! 

Many who agreed to teach programming were actually computer
systems retailers developing a market for themselves. The
programming success or failure was of no real consequence to
them. 

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