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to: Wayne Chirnside
from: Charles Angelich
date: 2003-01-27 22:23:08
subject: Re: BlueWave

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Hello Wayne - 

WC>> The author changed it on my suggestion, now default is to
WC>> save. 

CA>> I asked him to change it he refused I dumped MM as my OLR. 

WC> That's odd. Perhaps after being asked by a number of people? 

Not odd at all. WMcB has been mad at me for years now because I
hounded him to do an XT version of MM. Even after he did it and
it became quite popular he never admitted he was wrong to be so
annoyed with me. 

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CA>> I'm told there have been interruptions at the SOFTCON
CA>> server but I have no idea how often or what it was about.
CA>> Have you tried using just email to subscribe? 

WC> I'm on there now. I might just go silent a couple of days. 

There don't seem to be any argumentative people at SOFTCON
right now. There was one for a short time whose name I forget
and I think one of my 'old friend' females is testing the
waters for an entrance but at this time no one badgers anyone
there. 

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WC>> I also recently noted that www.dell.com returns "no data
WC>> in document" when I attempt to load their site, got there
WC>> once, or any of their links which always return "no data."
WC>> Since you're also running Win 3.1 and NSC 4.08 mind
WC>> letting me know if you've any luck? 

I checked on the W98SE with IEx v5.x and www.dell.com is there
and is working. I forgot to double check with Netscape but it
IS a totally overdone graphics oriented website. Was slow to
load at 56k on the 800mhz box! 

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CA>> Based on my personal experiences when authoring BBS
CA>> software I would guess that Steven D. would become
CA>> discouraged and stop work on BasicLinux within the year if
CA>> exposed to random public messaging in a newsgroup
CA>> for/about BasicLinux. 

WC> This is why I've not done a followup inquiry about my SMTP
WC> pproblem though I know a lot more about it now. Don't wish
WC> to bother him much as I'm sure he gets asked lots of
WC> questions. 

I was not saying he would have a problem answering questions.
He seems more than willing to help. The nagging for 'special'
versions is what becomes annoying IMO. 

CA>> People getting free software can be extremely demanding
CA>> and nasty when they don't get a special version for their
CA>> favorite hardware whatever. You have to experience it to
CA>> really know how extreme it is but it requires a thick skin
CA>> and to focus on the majority who appreciate what you are
CA>> doing for them. Otherwise it crushes you. 

WC> I used to do electrical and electronics repair for friends
WC> at a few dollars above parts cost and often got snapped at
WC> for "charging too much", "too much", being about 15 - 20
WC> percent of what a shop would charge. What stopped me from
WC> doing this sort of thing was after a former friend asked me
WC> for help with the electrical system on his Cadillac, Saint
WC> Pete AC had quoted him a price of 350 dollars, he bitched
WC> that I'd ripped him off by asking for 20 dollars for the
WC> job after spending 6 hours on the job and some 8 dollars of
WC> that 20 was parts!!! So you see I understand the situation
WC> here. Tim actually went around telling people I'd ripped
WC> him off! I _did_ get his AC working just fine but Tim _did_
WC> make a mistake in telling people I'd ripped him as he also
WC> had a short that drained his battery and I'd located it and
WC> it was an easy fix but after Tim's remarks somehow I didn't
WC> feel like puttiing in the ten minutes it would have taken
WC> to fix that as well. Now Saint Pete Air with their estimate
WC> *was* ripping him. After that I only did repairs on the
WC> cheap for special cases like the disabled or socked it to
WC> them perhaps 20 percent cheaper than a pro and the last not
WC> too often as I had a regular job. 

Had an almost identical situation 30+ years ago when I fixed a
friends car for next to nothing. Everything that went wrong
with the car after that he somehow blamed on me. All I did was
replace the fuel pump. :-\ 

WC>>> I've made two fido inquiries so far, no joy. Need to
WC>>> inquire in the alt.os.slackware.linux newsgroup. 

CA>> You might get more help if you refer to this as Slack v3.5
CA>> rather than as BasicLinux. I've tried that newsgroup and
CA>> it got ugly when they insisted I was in the wrong
CA>> newsgroup because I referred to it as BasicLinux and not
CA>> Slack v3.5. 

WC> Same here. I mentioned it was Linux 3.5 compatible but
WC> apparently other users there are using mailx and there is
WC> no .email.conf No-one got ugly on me however. 

I _think_ .email.conf might be an EZNET file and not a standard
file for _any_ other Linux install? 

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WC> Only shot the one alarm clock with a .22 

Are you aware that more people die from .22 gunshot wounds than
any other calibre? 

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CA>> The entire Slack v3.5 set of CDs can be had for 99 cents
CA>> plus shipping from the company linked at my website. 

WC> The question is do they take postal money orders, no credit
WC> card in current circumstances. 

I've been to a number of these websites that sell CDs and can't
remember which ones do an which do not. I expect that it would
accept money orders but not ship until it clears? 

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WC>> SCO ain't cheap! Or wasn't in 1994. 

CA>> When I first had the brainstorm to switch to Unix the
CA>> machine would have cost $12,000 and the SCO Unix was
CA>> another $5,000. I decided Unix couldn't do that much for
CA>> me. I was wrong about that but at the time Unix users were
CA>> almost outcasts. :-) 

WC> That's slowly changing a bit. 

Not entirely. It appears (to me) that the pros using UNIX don't
want to be a part of Linux nor mistaken as a Linux user either. 

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CA>> I remember you mentioning it. I've never seen a 'virgin'
CA>> XP install. My kids (girls) immediately pretty up the
CA>> desktop often using pink colored things and it's really a
CA>> bit sickening IMO. They like it though. 

WC> Landlady did the same, it sure is pretty but you'd think
WC> she had a 2400 modem instead of cable! 

She has something wrong there. My daughter has cable connected
to her laptop XP and it's very impressive. I've not tried to
clock it but it appears to do 2-3meg per minute or possibly
even faster. 

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