-> Original to Pete Hopping of 1:261/1000
-> Forwarded on  by Alan Hess of 1:261/1000
->
-> Whilst masticating on , Pete Hopping (1:261/1000)
-> wrote to Alan Hess:
->
-> PH> The camera angle wasn't good, and I couldn't see Herchbeck's face
-> PH> clearly enough to tell. I COULD see Alomar's face, though, and
-> PH> since I depend on lip reading, I could clearly see the various
-> PH> "fuck you's" I think I saw the ump call him a "son of a bitch"
->
-> That, unfortunately, is normal baseball argument talk.  However,
-> rumor has it that the umpire called Alomar a racial epithet, or
-> questioned his manhood, and that incited the spitting.  It's still
-> no excuse.
-> PH> after has got spat upon, though. But why does it matter either
-> PH> way? It does no good to argue with officials over what may be a
-> PH> bad call. They don't usually change their minds, do they? I know
-> PH> football officials can and do look at tape replays, but baseball
-> PH> officials don't do so, correct? (I don't know.)
->
-> Baseball umpires rarely, if ever, change calls, and don't use
-> replays. However, what is being overlooked in this situation is the
-> fact that Alomar had gone back to the dugout after having his say
-> (as he's supposed to), and the umpire, rather than staying behind
-> the plate for the next batter, walked to the dugout to continue the
-> argument, then ejected Alomar.  The umpires in gener have
-> exacerbated arguments in recent years, rather than do their jo
-> things down.
-> PH> Ah, but that was BEFORE the hissing and spitting incident wasn't
->
-> No, that was the day after.  The suspension was appealed, so Alomar
-> was allowed to play.
->
-> PH> doesn't deserve to play in the playoffs...precedent or no...and H
->
-> He deserves at least a 10 game suspension - at the start of next
-> season, as has always been the case for regular season infractions.
-> If the umpires and others don't like the current suspension system,
-> then they should change it in their next collective bargaining
-> agreement.  In the mean time, Alomar should be treated the same as
-> any other player, and he was.
-> PH> should be punished for trying to keep it going the next day.
->
-> Agreed.  *adh*
->
-> --- MsgedSQ/2 3.35
-> (1:261/1000)
Excuse me!!!!!!!!! I attended a Major League Umpiring School in Jan. of 1996 
and will be attending again in hopes to make it to the Majors some day. I 
have umpired High School, babe Ruth and Legion baseball. I threw a high 
school coach out of a game this year for showing me up(he was showing with 
hands) I asked him to stop and he told me to f*** off..... after the game was 
over, he told my boss I was swearing at him.....I never once used obsence 
words toward him. Down at the Major League Umpiring School I learned that 
most coaches and player's never take the blame but place the blame on others, 
such as umpires...... The Major League Umpiries I meet down at the school 
were very nice..........Umpires are only human and do make mistakes......how 
many player's sign autographs for kids and take the time out tospend time 
with others? well, the major league umpires signed for kids down in Florida 
for nothing.......... they are very nice people........I am sick and tired of 
people bashing umpires like they are animals.......
Rob
--- InterEcho 1.17
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