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to: KURT WISMER
from: MANUEL LLORENS
date: 1996-12-21 15:44:00
subject: Here again!

Hello Kurt:
14 Dec 96 (at 09:28), Kurt Wismer wrote to Manuel Llorens:
 ML>> Yes, but there could be general techniques which are not
 ML>> reversible.
 KW> looking for... once you properly disassemble a scanner you can find
 KW> out *everything* it does, general techniques, specific strings,
 I was saying that there could be some techniques which are not avoidable at 
all... don't saying I know them, by the moment. Anyway I was thinking in a PC 
emulator, that wouldn't be reversible ;-)
 KW> besides which, there are enough people using integrity checking that
 KW> any virus you release won't get far before the av guys put out a fix
 KW> for it...
 That's also right, but _some_ AV programs still says they can catch unknow 
viruses, and that's not a good thing to say.
 ML>> programs) are really well organized. But they create a
 ML>> false secure feeling in their users.
 KW> i'll agree that they do create a false sense of security, but it isn't
 KW> directly the fault of the av producers in most cases... marketting
 KW> personel are usually to blame, and theres also a certain amount of
 Well, but AV producers should be responsable of their products.
 KW> willful ignorance on the user's part (though there have been a few av
 KW> producers who really should have kept their big yaps shut)... but
 hmmm... that's a pity too...
 ML>> It was last summer in this echo area... but better if you
 ML>> have forgotten the discussion... I'd like to do the same.
 KW> i know the feeling...
 That's a good beguining for both us ;-)
Greets :)
  Patuel, Pilgrim Cosysop of EDiSoN'S TeMPLe
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