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to: Charles Angelich
from: Wayne Chirnside
date: 2003-01-27 18:26:00
subject: Re: BlueWave

-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 CA>> The version 1.5 ATP is good and small too. :-)

 WC> Hmm not sure that's the one I've got so I'll check and
 WC> maybe snag that one on your recommendation.

 CA> It is most likely v1.5, I don't think I've seen anything newer
 CA> or even older out there.

It is, and snagged again since my crash haing not yet installed it.

 WC> BTW when you went from Basic Linux ramdrive had you read
 WC> documentation on how to do so? I never found that
 WC> documentation.

 CA> I never created a Linux partition. 

 Now that's a dirty darn shame, it's not hard to do at all
 in fact since I didn't reinstall everything from tape 
 I may very well defrag and add a 4th Linux native partition.
 The thing I found freaky was the RAMdrive version retained
 the telnet module after I installed it and shutdown and reloaded
 it

 CA> However the instructions you
 CA> are looking for are a separate archive linked from Steven's
 CA> webpages (possibly mine too) that is something like 720k in
 CA> size?

Yeah that's in the  Basic Linux hard drive zipped module.

 There's also a text file with the unzip that I hadn't read 
 This too I discovered after crash recovery.

 WC> I took the information on how to load the game tetris which
 WC> I've no interest in loading and extrapolated that to
 WC> install the hard drive Linux partition from the ramdrive
 WC> version after establishing a second ramdrive to hold the
 WC> bas-hd.tgz and go file. Seemed to work just fine.

 CA> I'm waiting for another machine here before making that move. I
 CA> really don't want to multi-boot. I don't trust myself to keep
 CA> everything separate. I am supposed to be getting a 450mhz with
 CA> 192 meg here sometime soon.

 Why multiboot? as long as you've got access to a DOS partition
 you can put the image file and boot.bat there.
 Be sure to alter boot.bat to call the correct Linux
 partition instead of ramdrive. 
 The DOS partition can be just a few meg but you DO need to take
 care to defrag first and remove any hidden files that get
 placed at the end
 of the drive such as mirror.idx or nortons equivilent hidden file. 
 It also helps to run FIPS even if you
 don't use it to split the partition as it will show you where
 your DOS leaves off and free space begins so you can make an 
 intelligent decision about partitions size. FIPS comes in 
 both FAT 16 and 32 flavors so be sure to get the right one
 and boot clean with it on the sys'ed A disk.
 Oh yeah FIPS has a -t switch that'll run through the procedure
 NOT split the partition but save a copy of MBR to disk which can be 
 restored with restorrb but take care there's a disclaimer about 
 NOT using FIPS on Compaq machines or presumably any with that 
 proprietary style setup partition Compaq's use.
 There's no need for LILO at all and I only use it here because somehow
 I've forgotten, and not read the docs, on loadlin15 for my old
 release. I currently boot my partitioned Basic Linux
 right out of my DOS - Windows partition. Now you _may_ need to use
 LILO with Win 9X on up but having no experience with those...

 CA>> I am easilly turned away by 'ugly' these days. Ugly code,
 CA>> ugly execution, lots of ugliness out there. ;-)

 WC> I'm starting to feel very much the same way.

 WC> After years of no trojans or viruses suddenly they're in
 WC> near every mail download with many of them coming from one
 WC> particular ISP. Think I pissed someone off? Anyway it's fun

 CA> This doesn't happen to me since I'm using W31, DOS, or BL when
 CA> I access the Internet.

It's coming in on Netscapes Mail under Win 3.1
and alters the registry to load the malicious code on loading
Windows, got it's own SMTP too so it spreads in the background
when online. I've got it licked though and it's helped me improve
my security.

 CA> Dealing with 'security' issues is an adjustment I will need to
 CA> make if I keep the W2K presently installed on the 450mhz
 CA> machine.

Being non-profit and an individual here I can snag something from 
Zone Labs free when I load 98 and there are measures and HOW_TO's
on securing Linux.
 
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