Wayne Chirnside wrote in a message to Roy J. Tellason:

-=> ROY J. TELLASON wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

RJT> Wayne Chirnside wrote in a message to Charles Angelich:

RJT> (...)

WC> Takes a bit of effort but the rewards are great.
WC> I mean here I am sitting on a 20 meg partition that with all the
WC> junk currently in /tmp shows 31 percent usage of that partition and
WC> I can telnet, edit, write and edit files, receive e-mail, browse
WC> and open JPG's off the local weather radar page already!!!

RJT> Only using 31% of a 20M partition?  Cool...   What are you using to
RJT> open jpegs?

WC>  Vimage

I'm not familiar with that one.  I used a dos-based program on this
machine,  but at the present time it doesn't wanna work with the video card
that's in there at the moment,  so I don't run it.  On the linux box
there's something or other under KDE that does a pretty good job of
displaying images,  even to resizing things when you change the size of a
window,  but I'd be interested in some command-line software for that job. 
Did you have to set up a config file to make it deal with your hardware? 
Where'd you get it?

RJT>  Some command-line utility,  I'm sure.

WC>  Point and click up comes the graphic, yet to add additional 
WC> packages. Additional graphics and video drivers await my loading 
WC> them in.  My local weather radar is much friendlier through Linux 
WC> :-)  I can load Linux, dial out and load the radar image in Vimage 
WC> in the time it takes to load Windows and Netscape!

Heh.

WC> Now get this in my haste to get going before I neglected some 
WC> options on the Basic Linux web page.  I can install a basic 
WC> X-Windows using ICEWM into that very same 20 meg partition!!! I've 
WC> already downloaded the required packages! Add another 5 meg 
WC> partition to hold Netscape 3.04 and at 25 meg I'll have mail, 
WC> telnet, FTP, server package, Netscape,  and a X-Windows desktop. 
WC> Mind you I'm not including the 20 meg swap partition required in 
WC> addition to my 20 meg RAM to run Netscape and X-Windows in the 
WC> above figure so it really comes in at 45 meg should I add all this 
WC> stuff.  The guy hosting the Basic Linux page is now working on 
WC> Basic Linux 2.0 which will be Slackware 7.1 based.

I have a 7.1 cdrom here but skipped right over it to run 8.0.  Not much
difference was apparent to me on looking them over,  so I figured I'd go
with the later one.

WC>  I'm going to see if I can prune some more DOS - Win space and add 
WC> a Linux partition to include the C compiler or perhaps just wait a
WC> week or so and nuke that old Slackware 2.0 release in /hda4 
WC> replacing it with something else to play with

Sounds to me like you've got things going there pretty much,  don't
necessarily need that old install any more.

WC> Another thing before lights out, I'm going looking for the modem 
WC> init string and nuke the damn pulse dialing in favor of DTDF. Can't 
WC> stand hearing that darn relay snapping all the time using ppp-on :-(

RJT> I killed a relay in a (Zoom) modem,  one time.  Not pulse-dialing,
RJT> either! Just dialing out a *lot*.  The damn thing wouldn't release the
RJT> line,  either, when the modem thought it had done so,  which was not
RJT> fun.

WC> I'd be tempted to fix something like that.

Hell with that,  it was under warranty,  so I sent it back and let _them_
fix it.  Which took *way* too long at the time,  so that's when I ended up
getting my first USR Courier,  spending way too much on that at the time, 
but it was twice the speed and I don't regret it for an instant.  The old
Zoom 14400 is sitting in a box somewhere,  hasn't been used since.

WC> Just buy a light relay and solder it in.
WC> BTW that's what I'm worried about contact arc leading to failure 
WC> of the relay to release.

The contact in there must've broken,  I guess.  I don't know,  don't care, 
and ain't gonna worry about it.  :-)

WC> I STILL can't get SMTP to function with that Verizon 553 
WC> authentication error but guess what, I found and subscribed to a 
WC> 0.verizon.linux newsgroup and I ain't alone :-(

Hm.

WC> Something like 15 percent of the posts I saw were from people with
WC> exactly the same SMTP problem and exactly the same error message 
WC> 553! So far no joy in solving it reading the replies to those 
WC> individuals as they are using far later mailer packages than I am 
WC> and the configuration files referred to bear no resemblance to the 
WC> primative mailer in Basic Linux based on SW 3.5. Soon as I figure 
WC> enough of this stuff out it's bye bye Verizon, save 100+/ year and 
WC> get a less restrictive user agreement.

That user agreement is by far the single biggest factor in why I wouldn't
even consider using them for a provider.  That and the fact that they're
the freakin' PHONE COMPANY!  The fact that I gotta deal with them in the
first place is bad enough,  I'm not gonna go and give them more of my money
when I have a choice of giving it to somebody else...

Seems to me that it was right around the holidays when they laid off a
whole mess of people,  too.  They said that it was because they couldn't
figure out how to deal with competition.  Heh...

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