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to: KEITH KNAPP
from: RELATIF TUINN
date: 1998-03-11 04:15:00
subject: Time and Again

Keith Knapp discussing "Time and Again"
with Day Brown...
 KK> I think astronomers would disagree with you.  The Hubble has already
 KK> showed us more about the deep universe than was known in all of history.
 KK> The next scopes will probably be able to look back all the way to the
 KK> time when the BB models presume the universe to have begun.  IOW I think
 KK> we are at the fron of the learning curve, not at the end of it.
There is a limit to how far back in time we can look if the BB model is 
accurate due to the density of the Universe being such that it was opaque. We 
can never penetrate this opacity by direct observation.
 KK> We always tend to unconsciously assume that we, as a culture, have a
 KK> pretty good picture of things, but the fact is that we really know very
 KK> little about the deep universe.
Science is in its infancy. In 300 years from basically scratch, how much do 
you think you could learn about a 12-17 billion year old Universe? :)
 KK> Every time we build a better telescope, we point it up there and it
 KK> shows us some damned thing that nobody predicted.
Yep. And we learn something more about our Universe. :)
 KK> Another example: in
 KK> the late 19th century it was well known that the broad outlines of
 KK> physics had been drawn by Newton, Faraday et al., and it only remained
 KK> to fill in the details.
The fact that we now know different shows the ability of science to be 
critical of itself to a very high degree. Also, it demonstrates what Richard 
Feynmann said once, "If it disagrees with experiment. It is wrong.", which to 
me sums up science completely.
    Relatif Tuinn
... All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream. (Edgar A. Poe)
--- Spot 1.3a #1413
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