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to: Jeff Binkley
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2010-07-11 17:32:22
subject: `Senator Pork` has died.

On 07/10/2010 02:42 PM, Jeff Binkley -> Ed Hulett wrote:


 RS>>>>>>> Committee rooms had TV cameras in them at times, most
 RS>>>>>>> notably the Army- McCarthy hearings of 1954
that destroyed
 RS>>>>>>> Beck's hero, Joe McCarthy.

 JB>>>>>> Let us be reminded what state Joe was from.

 RS>>>>> And this has what to do with the price of tea in China?

 RS>>>>> The country as a whole, and Wisconsin, have mostly rejected
 RS>>>>> McCarthyism. And McCarthy.

 RS>>>>> However, Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter still consider
McCarthy to
 RS>>>>> be their hero.

 RS>>>>> Where were Ohio's Senators, when McCarthy was running around
 RS>>>>> with his tar bucket and brush?

 EH>>>> Please read the Venona Papers. Here's a list of Americans on
 EH>>>> the list... http://goo.gl/WHLe

 EH>>>> "Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Chairman of the bipartisan
 EH>>>> Commission on Government Secrecy, responsible for securing the
 EH>>>> release of Venona project materials, in the Introduction to his
 EH>>>> book Secrecy states, "The Venona intercepts contained
 EH>>>> overwhelming proof of the activities of Soviet spy networks in
 EH>>>> America, complete with names, dates, places, and deeds." The
 EH>>>> release involved careful consideration of privacy interests of
 EH>>>> individuals mentioned, referenced, or identified in the
 EH>>>> translations. Some names have not been released when to do so
 EH>> would constitute an invasion of privacy. JB> Ove
 EH>>>> r 200 named or covernamed persons found in the VENONA
 EH>>>> translations, persons then present in the U.S., are claimed by
 EH>>>> the KGB and the GRU in their messages as their clandestine
 EH>>>> assets or contacts."

 EH>>>> The Venona Papers back up McCarthy's actions. He eventually
 EH>>>> went overboard, but before then, he was on the right track.

 EH>>>> Interestingly, the Russians are still spying on the US. The
 EH>>>> Obama administration doesn't want anyone to pay attention to
 EH>>>> that fact seeing how fast they made the swap deal with Russia
 EH>>>> even before the 10 spies were convicted.

 JB>>> Sauer forget show many devout communists were in the FDR
 JB>>> administration at the end of WWII.

 EH>> Sauer doesn't know much about history. He has repeatedly associated
 EH>> McCarthy with HUAC and refuses to understand that a Senator isn't
 EH>> part of the House.

 JB> I understand his confusion. It was only recently that I convinced him
 JB> that Senators don't represent districts in a state. It took almost two
 JB> weeks before he realized his error and went mute.

Anyone who thinks Media Matters, Crooks and Liars, "conwebwatch",
Rachel Maddow, Kieth Olbermann etc, do extensive research and back up their
nonsense with facts, can't be all that intelligent.

Ed

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