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to: Rich Gauszka
from: Mark
date: 2006-07-27 20:06:18
subject: Re: Sulfur - cure for global warming?

From: "Mark" 

Nah, I'm going to look for a dolphin vs. shark, grab on to that fin and
tell him, "Take me to Ohio James" 

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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> So are you going to adapt by growing  fins when the East Coast is flooded?
> 
>
> It's in your genes
> http://www.livescience.com/animalworld/060726_fins_limbs.html
>
> The triangular shark fin that sends frightened swimmers scrambling to
> shore is made using the same genes that help form the arms and legs of
> humans, a new study reports.
>
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:44c947f2{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Yes, what I meant was it makes sense that it would work, not that it was
>> advisable to do.
>>
>> My other underlying point goes to my contention that we should be
>> concentrating on adapting rather than pretending we can change the
>> climate. But let us assume that we could do it, that strategically
>> located "sulfur guns" were fired off according to a
scientific formula
>> and we succeed in lowering the temperature by a degree. Everyone is
>> slapping each other on the back on how brilliant we all are, then the
>> super volcano in Yellowstone blows (or even just a regular volcano) and
>> lowers the already lower temperature by 2 more degrees and turns a 160
>> day growing season, not into 70 days, but into 0 days. We won't look so
>> smart then, will we? Especially if the volcanic dust drives our man-made
>> sulfur into the sea and kills the mackerel too.
>>
>> The people in 1816 adapted by eating fish as they had no crops and that
>> was a really quick forced solution in the face of cataclysmic climate
>> change in a single year by a single volcano. You global warming alarmists
>> are wetting your pants over the same 1 degree change in climate (assuming
>> the "science" is even right), but in the opposite
direction, and over a
>> 100 year period vs. 1 year. I see no reason to believe we can't adapt to
>> that and avoid destroying the world economy with misguided Kyoto type
>> limits on our activities.
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:44c91bdb{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>I agree that the sulfur would lower the temperature. It's just that the
>>>proposed cure will present another problem - possible major - acid rain.
>>>That's one of the reasons for fuel standards that limit it.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>> news:44c91aa3$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Makes sense to me. When Krakatoa erupted in 1883 it
dropped the world
>>>> temperature by 1 degree (C) and the same thing happened back in 1815
>>>> when Tambora erupted. Indeed in 1816 New England farmers
claimed it was
>>>> the year without summer as the growing season was cut from
the typical
>>>> 160 days down to 70 and a whole lotta people ate a whole
lotta mackerel
>>>> to make it through that winter.
>>>>
>>>> Uh, no I don't happen to know this off the top of my head, the above
>>>> facts and many, many more interesting tidbits are in Simon
Winchester's
>>>> Krakatoa that I happen to be reading this summer 
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:44c90e33{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> cooler earth with an acid rain problem?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.livescience.com/environment/060727_inject_sulfur.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One way to curb global warming is to purposely shoot
sulfur into the
>>>>> atmosphere, a scientists suggested today.
>>>>>
>>>>> The burning of fossil fuels releases carbon dioxide, a
greenhouse gas,
>>>>> into the atmosphere. It also releases sulfur that
cools the planet by
>>>>> reflecting solar radiation away from Earth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Injecting sulfur into the second atmospheric layer
closest to Earth
>>>>> would reflect more sunlight back to space and offset
greenhouse gas
>>>>> warming, according to Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen from
the Max Planck
>>>>> Institute for Chemistry in Germany and the Scripps
Institution of
>>>>> Oceanography, University of California at San Diego.
>>>>>
>>>>> Crutzen suggests carrying sulfur into the atmosphere
via balloons and
>>>>> using artillery guns to release it, where the
particles would stay for
>>>>> up to two years. The results could be seen in six months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nature does something like this naturally.
>>>>>
>>>>> When Mount Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in1991,
millions of
>>>>> tons of sulfur was injected into the atmosphere, enhancing
>>>>> reflectivity and cooling the Earth's surface by an
average of 0.9
>>>>> degrees Fahrenheit in the year following the eruption.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Given the grossly disappointing international
political response to
>>>>> the required greenhouse gas emissions, ... research on
the feasibility
>>>>> and environmental consequences of climate engineering
of the kind
>>>>> presented in this paper, which might need to be
deployed in future,
>>>>> should not be tabooed," Crutzen said.
>>>>>
>>>>> This proposal is detailed in the August issue of the
journal Climatic
>>>>> Change.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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