Salutatio Mark!
11-Mar-98, Mark Bloss wrote to Dennis Menard
Subject: Time and Again
RM>> I do not find this statement very accurate, because what has
RM>> actually been happening is they observe, conclude, then look for
RM>> support for their conclusion. That is a far stretch form
RM>> observing, theorizing,
DM>> Forgive me for this brief interruption, Richard:
DM>> Latest observations indicate expansion of the universe is
DM>> `accelerating!' It is easy enough to check out; all major news
DM>> sources carried the story.
MB> That's indeed strange. I hate to come to the point where I must
MB> contradict you - but latest observations have indeed demonstrated
MB> without reservation that the Universe's expansion has been slowing
MB> down. It does move pretty fast though.
Two separate groups, Mark. Two separate conclusions. Now if we include
"POINT 1" (as stated in my message to Dennis) there are three groups,
three results. So, I am forced to conclude that they really don't know
JACK about any sort of expansion. All the data seems to make sense on
their own, but held up to each other they contradict each other.
DM>> The first effect of this information is the resurrection, wholly
DM>> intact, of Einstein's long deceased `cosmological constant' and
DM>> the possibility of that `UNlooked for' and `UNexpected' spectre
DM>> of the mythological `5th force.'
MB> Hardly. Einstein himself rejected this idea of his own, admitting
MB> he was wrong - because the Universe was found not to be _static_
MB> at all. If the universe is not static (and it isn't) then there is
MB> no 5th force: a repellent to gravity keeping matter from falling
MB> in on itself. The only "5th force" needed to keep gravity in
MB> check, is momentum, and it's hardly a 5th force, or "cosmological
MB> constant" that we have _not_ observed. It is the force of the
MB> original blast.
Correction: assumed blast. It is a theory, not fact and it should not
be treated as fact.
MB> This is very much accepted in the consensus, and
MB> its discovery (the expansion) can be followed backwards -
MB> demonstrating a point at which all matter in the universe was at a
MB> singularity.
How do they account for that huge chuck of the universe doing what it is
not supposed to according to their theory? Is it ignored, and swept under
the rug in hopes that the problem will go away by itself?
Dicere...
email address (vrmeic@nucleus.com)
Richard Meic
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