RL> Even the salesdrones will tell you that you're better off buying the
 RL> car with a radio only and spending a few hundred on a system you like,
 RL> rather than spending a few hundred on a factory system that isn't that
 RL> good, or a thousand or more on a factory Bose system. 
     that's true! Original car radios are ridiculously high-priced... but 
     most of them are manufactured by well-known companies (Sony does most
     of the japanese cars... and I think Motorola has a lot to do with
     Ford Electronics (not just the radio) )... anyways, there are many good
     car stereo systems... too much, in my opinion!
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