Ted, why not take it private?  This particular horse is dead, and its
continued flogging is of no avail.

Richard 


Ted Rosenberg wrote:
> 
> Terry, I have been in computers MUCH longer than you have, I have had
> email for longer than you have been in computers, so don't try the
> "authority" fallacious argument.
> 
> That fact does not make MY opinion any better, any more than it makes
> YOUR argument any good
> 
> Any idiot who argues that in some way being able to wire a board makes
> them any more an expert on usenet fraud is clearly showing off their
> incompetence.
> 
> SOME possible relevance is in my years of experience with usenet and its
> predecessors, moderated groupmail and echoes - but actually, the real
> days of fraudulent surveys are only the last few years.
> 
> You are a relative newcomer here, and you are QUITE welcome to answer
> ANY scam on the net - What bothers me is that in your recent posts, you
> seem to have become a shill, for scammers, and appear to be being paid.
> 
> Anyone who does not heed warnings not to fill out surveys for
> unidentified sources will reap the consequences.
> 
> Terry Stone wrote:
> >
> > Ted,
> >    I did not address the calling in issue and I do agree with you if
> > they are using a PoP account you can get in.
> >    Does she have an obligation to prove her self or are we so untrusting
> > of others that we are always on the lookout to "shoot first" and check
> > later?
> >    You must have gone a different Syracuse then I did. I was told that I
> > had to obtain this through the book store (that is access and an
> > address) and there was a fee for it. I was also told that I did not need
> > it as a distant student as I had an email address and access to the
> > areas which I would need for class participation and research. They
> > registered me under my home email address.
> >     I can not answer the question on what she stated. I am guessing if
> > she is a distant student and not on campus for a direct connect they may
> > have well told her the same as I was told. I also do not know the
> > school's policy on using outside access to their network - some do and
> > some do not. The one I used required I have an ID/Password and use my
> > home address as a cross reference. Do you know or have you checked with
> > her school to obtain their policy?
> >    I have 33 years in computers with everything from mainframe
> > operations to LAN/WANS/MANS, as an operator, programmer, and
> > teacher/instructor. I feel that I am quite literate with them but there
> > are times when the policies and procedures at different locations make
> > it darn near impossible to do anything.
> > Terry
> >
> > Ted Rosenberg wrote:
> > >
> > > first:
> > > it does NOT "cost to call in", you just put pop3.cord.edu in your mail
> > > server list
> > >
> > > Second: we get LOTS of people without school addresses - most are
> > > scammers - If she has any other way to verify her status, she could have
> > > offered it, besides she did not claim to be a distance learning student,
> > > merely living off campus.
> > >
> > > Third: Syracuse would have given you an email address if you had asked
> > >
> > > fourth:  She keeps claiming that students there DO NOT get email
> > > addresses - patently false - and easily checked.
> > >
> > > It is QUITE POSSIBLE that she is just too computer illiterate to know
> > > what she is doing, but we can't depend on that
> > >