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to: MARK BLOSS
from: DAVID MARTORANA
date: 1998-03-11 20:59:00
subject: `Quickening Universe`

 ++> Inspired by a Mark Bloss NO-NO to Dennis Menard
 ++> on "Speeding up separation of the universe"
 
 DMe> Latest observations indicate expansion of the universe is
 DMe> `accelerating!' It is easy enough to check out; all major
 DMe> news sources carried the story.
 
 MB> That's indeed strange.  I hate to come to the point where I must
 MB> contradict you - but latest observations have indeed demonstrated
 MB> without reservation that the Universe's expansion has been slowing
 MB> down.  It does move pretty fast though.
 
     Without what reservations?
 
   Until they could measure the dimness difference of fading super
   nova light there was no way of determining speed up or slow down
   (as per news releases a week ago). The speedup was confirmed by
   three different groups ...MIT (the results of Robert Kirshner
   and his team) , a university in Italy and another I cannot remember).
   Memory not so stable anymore 
 
   Some overly poetic ... From my "Aunti Gravie" posting on March 1-
 
   "Enlightened by the spent matches of super novi, several search
    teams have cautiously agreed that the parting of the evolving
    universe is *speeding up* ...........
        It is now, perhaps, believed that the hidden spirits of space
    encourage such galactic va-va-voom by tossing out and at it, an own
    eternal supply of opposing gravity ....cosmic vectors, vaporing out
    ever smartly. Such "quintessence" of "star-mind-will",   as virtual
    pearls winking in and out of existence, do quiver quiet  each to
    an own gravity rhythm.......
 
 DMe> The first effect of this information is the resurrection, wholly
 DMe> intact, of Einstein's long deceased `cosmological constant' and the
 DMe> possibility of that `UNlooked for' and `UNexpected' spectre of the
 DMe> mythological `5th force.'
 
 MB> Hardly.  Einstein himself rejected this idea of his own, admitting he
 MB> was wrong - because the Universe was found not to be _static_ at all.
 MB> If the universe is not static (and it isn't) then there is no 5th force:
 
     If I read it right, the speed up is added to the separation
     speed. Though the news briefs mentioned the resurrection of the
     "cosmological constant" ...Einsten maybe a little wrong?, they
     did not explain its present implication in the speedup.
 
 MB> a repellent to gravity keeping matter from falling in on itself.  The
 MB> only "5th force" needed to keep gravity in check, is momentum, and
 MB> it's hardly a 5th force, or "cosmological constant" that we have
 MB> _not_ observed.  It is the force of the original blast.  This is
 MB> very much accepted in the consensus, and its discovery (the expansion)
 MB> can be followed backwards - demonstrating a point at which all matter
 MB> in the universe was at a singularity.  The force that caused the
 MB> original expansion is robust - but fading, losing steam.  The
 MB> Universe's expansion is slowing down - not the other way 'round.
 
     Mark! You speak with a scientific authority that would make one
     believe an angel is whispering into your ear. For us less plugged
     into the celestial spheres, we read the latest as mortals, "sort
     of believing" what we read until the next of a thousand shoes fall.
     As methods and tools improve, many new views will emerge. There are
     few "knowables" that stay  "absolute" (even gravity may have some
     skeletons in the closet!).
 
              ....we might wait and see ???  @@ ... Dave
 
    P.S. Announced tonight! ....a big rock swimming through space
         that might catch our attention in a few years!
--- Maximus/2 3.01
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