On 08/06/2010 06:27 PM, Ross Sauer -> Ross Cassell wrote:
 RS> "Ross Cassell -> Ross Sauer"  wrote in
 RS> news:9458$ALL-POLITICS{at}JamNNTPd:

 RC>>>>>> Yeah screw the will of the voters..

 RS>>>>> California voters also approved of locking up
"the Japs"
 RC>> during RC>> WW2.

 RC>>>> Uh, the internment of the Japanese Americans was done at the
 RC>>>> behest of a Presidential Executive Order, issued by FDR.

 RS>>> Due to hysteria whipped up by California residents, and a
 RC>> corrupt RS> general.
 RS>>> (The general's family got some rich land at fire-sale price from
 RC>> a RS> Japanese-American.)

 RC>> So California comprises our entire Pacific Coastline, uh lemme fix my
 RC>> map.

 RS> You're missing the point.

You have no point beyond what is fed to you by your favorite websites.

 RS> The fact is, people will vote for just about anything, if it's packaged
 RS> just the right way.

That's rather democratic of you.

It was FDR who insisted that Japanese-Americans be put in internment camps.
Most of the citizens of Washington, Oregon and California were neighbors to
these people and knew they weren't dangerous. It's a lie that Californians,
Oregonians or Washingtonians wanted their neighbors and friends rounded up
and put into camps. It was the racists in government who did this, led by
FDR. As for the "corrupt general" you mention, you give no real
information to back it up. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but that it's
rather odd that you would mention the incident at all as if it happened in
California and California was the only place Japanese-Americans were put in
camps.

 RS> And the right-wing, especially religious right organizations like
 RS> "Family Research Council" and the Mormons sent out tons
of propaganda,
 RS> ncluding all sorts of anti-gay hysteria.

Total nonsense. The voters passed Prop 8 with 52% of the vote. It was
overwhelmingly supported by more than just "right-wing...
organizations."

Blacks and Hispanics voted by a larger percentage than Mormons or any other
group. For its efforts, the LDS Church was fined only a little over $5K for
not disclosing all it did. Hardly enough of an effort to
"package" anything "just the right way" to get people
to vote their way.

If it was just about who spent more money and put up more advertisement,
the anti-Prop 8 side would have won since they spent more than the pro-Prop
8 side by more than twice.

 RS> Now they want Judge Walker impeached.

He's biased against religion in general and Christianity in particular and
an admitted homosexual. His rambling 136 page ruling reads like the rants
you'd find on HuffPo and Media Matters. He talks about fighting bigotry,
but then follows that with a bigoted screed attacking religion.

 RS> They never mention who nominated the judge, do they?
 RS> And who opposed him?

It doesn't matter who nominated the judge.

 RS> I can see why.
 RS> He was nominated by that "leftist liberal" Ronald Reagan,
and the "good
 RS> conservative" who fought against his nomination was Nancy Pelosi.

What does this have to do with anything?

 RC>>>> Arent you the political expert on all things?

 RC>>>> Of course, I guess it is true, that a 65 day military hero
 RC>> living RC>> in such palatial accomodations in Eastern Wisconsin,
 RC>> does know RC>> what is best for citizens of other states...

 RS>>> Gratuitous personal slam, once again you show your bankruptcy of
 RS>>> ideas.

 RC>> You certainly are elevating yourself to be the one who knows what is
 RC>> best for them out there.

 RS> Keep attempting a diversion.

You claim you have a point and Cassell does not. The only one trying to
divert attention is you. You make a claim and when challenged, you run
away.

 RC>> If they had voted on a proposition to make abortion mandatory, you
 RC>> would be rejoicing them Californians as just and wise..

 RS> Wrong. Got any more BS to make up?

You make up  more than your share of that.

 RC>> You were told in the recent past that there were Sheriff Deputies
 RC>> being shot in Arizona and that the Feds had erected signs out in the
 RC>> Arizona desert to warn our citizens to the dangers posed by outlaws,
 RC>> human smugglers etc... You pounded your tiny fists and said no, this
 RC>> isnt happening because you couldnt see it from your front door..

 RS> There are US citizens, including *WHITES* involved in these activities
 RS> as well.

Really? Name some.

 RS> One little group was pulling their crimes while cloaked in a "anti-
 RS> illegal immigration" group.

What group is that?

 RS> But look out! The brown people are under your bed!

It's not about "brown people," race-bater, it's about right and
wrong. We as US citizens are required to show our citizenship when leaving
and re-entering this country, why is it suddenly a race matter to require
people from foreign countries to enter the US legally and carry papers to
showing they are here legally?

Ed

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