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echo: pol_disorder
to: Ross Sauer
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2010-09-06 19:02:18
subject: Who is inspiring whom?

On 09/06/2010 02:34 PM, Ross Sauer -> All wrote:
 RS> What's good for the goose, is good enough for the gander, Jeff.

That's what Jeff's point was, moron.

 RS> Well, at least we're getting somewhere: Up until that nutcase domestic
 RS> terrorist, James Lee, walked in and threatened to blow up the Discovery
 RS> Channel, the standard response from folks on the right to acts of domestic
 RS> terrorism -- which predominantly involve right-wing politics -- was to
 RS> claim that these were simply the acts of nuts, and that the incendiary
 RS> political rhetoric that inspired them had no role in their violent behavior
 RS> whatsoever.

 RS> But once Lee went on his rampage, supposedly fueled by environmentalist
 RS> rhetoric, that all went away: Why of course it was all Al Gore's fault.

Really? James Lee is the very first? Your idiotic source needs to check their facts.

Lee was a follower of Daniel Quinn the purveyor of ishmael.org and author
of the book titled "Ishmael." It was through Quinn's book and
"teachings" that Lee got his anti-human population views. Lee
said that watching Gore's propaganda-mentary gave him an epiphany. Whether
Gore's rhetoric inspired him or not isn't the point, though. The point is
that this guy was a left-wing nutcase and yet the talking heads on the left
tried to make him out as some sort of right-winger before they had any
information. It's the left who are trying to tie any and every nutcase in
with the right so they can indict the entire right as out of touch with
reality.

 RS> (snip)

 RS> Its appearance on the right, however, is not merely pervasive, it is
 RS> wielded by prominent national opinion leaders and public figures. Reynolds
 RS> may want to blame Al Gore for James Lee's eliminationist rhetoric, but he
 RS> is unable to point to a single instance of anything Gore has written or
 RS> said that would lead to or even remotely suggest that eliminationism. On
 RS> the other hand, we can point to any number of major right-wing pundits,
 RS> politicians, and cultural leaders who not only have used the kind of
 RS> hateful rhetoric that inspired Lee, but a number of other violent acts --
 RS> ranging in the recent past from Jim David Adkisson's hateful assault on a
 RS> liberal church in Knoxville, to Scott Roeder's assassination of Dr. George
 RS> Tiller, to the recent shootout in Oakland with a gunman inspired by Glenn
 RS> Beck to go attack the Tides Foundation -- can all be directly and
 RS> concretely tied to major-media right-wing pundits.

The Oakland guy had a long and violent criminal history that had nothing to
do with politics. Here we have your source doing exactly what I pointed
out. They are trying to indict anyone on the right as being dangerous.

Those "right-wing pundits" you and your source try to indict
espouse personal responsibility and reject the idea of group-think. You and
your source totally miss that point and mindlessly try to paint all
right-of-center pundits as insincere and their listeners as mindless rubes.
You can't accept the fact that others might honestly have a different
perspective than you.

 RS> http://tinyurl.com/22qv4b2

 RS> Now make sure you give the people in the second paragraph your usual denial
 RS> and excuses.

The only denial and excuses so far are from you and your source.

Ed

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