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from: Anon.
date: 2003-12-12 11:55:00
subject: Re: Intersecting Sets Of

John Edser wrote:
>>>JE:-
>>>No sex was supposed, i.e. all reproduction
>>>was asexual. Each individual in the
>>>intersection was NOT the offspring of every
>>>parent,
> 
> 
>>BOH:-
>>i.e. In which case it can't be in the intersection of all of the sets.
> 
> 
>>JE:-
>>Yes it can because every unit of fitness is
>>_equivalent_ to every other, irrespective
>>of the parent that produced it.
> 
> 
> BOH:-
> But in the absence of sex, each unit of fitness can only have one
> parent, surely?
> 
> JE:-
> Yes, here, "each unit of fitness can only have
> one  parent". You seem to be labouring under
> the misunderstanding that fitness set intersections
> are only valid when both parents contribute
> to each fitness element in the intersection.
> This is not the case. We have been
> through this a number of times. GH
> harboured the same misunderstanding. As long
> as the fitness elements are defined as equivalent
> all the sets of total parental fitness, represented
> by one Venn circle, can be validly 100% intersected
> within one population to determine the exact order
> of selection of all parents, no exceptions.
> 
> I am NOT proposing that the fitness elements
> in the intersection have been reproduced by
> both parents using sex, I am proposition that each fitness
> element was produced asexually by just one parent so
> that each Venn circle represents a _total_ fitness
> for _one_ parent. 

But then if sets A and b are your sets of fitness elements, the 
statement "All the elements in the intersection C are also in sets A and 
B" is false.



Bob

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