From: Tom Lange 
Subject: Re: webwatch-l www.guidedogs.com  not accessible via Windows
Hi Pete,
Hmmm, I bet you have graphics turned on in both Netscape and Internet
Explorer. I usually check a site with graphics on and with graphics off
before I dismiss a site as being inaccessible. I suggest that you do
likewise. Last week I paid a visit to www.guidedogs.com in both modes just
to see how it behaved. Without graphics loaded, I had no trouble
whatsoever using Window-Eyes or JFW version 3. Actually, the site is, in
my view, well thought out and well-behaved. Ditch the graphics and you'll
be all right. Might I also suggest, kind sir, that you refrain from
bashing the site builder or organization to whom the site belongs until
you do a thorough analysis of the situation. Going off half-cocked like
that isn't cool and ticks people off, not to mention  that it casts doubt
on your credibility. Let me hasten to add that this isn't a flame, just a
reproach. I will look at the site again and gladly eat my words if the
site has changed  sufficiently within the past week to render it unusable. 
Tom
On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Pete Donahue wrote:
> 
> Hello listers,
> 
> Last night I went to the Guide Dogs for the Blind Web Site at
> http://www.guidedogs.com, and much to my surprise found that I could not
> access the hyper links with either Netscape Navigator or Internet
> Explorer.  I would very strongly urge all Guide Dogs GRaduates to contact
> GDB, and let them know on no uncertain terms that this kind ofdesign is
> unacceptible; expecially when it comes from an agency for the blind.  One
> wonders if the company hosting this web site was given a lesson in making
> ttheir web pages accessible for the blind.  Why did Guide Dogs not demand
> that this be done?  This situation needs to be remedied if we areto be
> able to access the material on this site in Windows.  Again, I want to
> urge GDB Graduates to contact both Guide Dogs for the Blind, and members
> of the GDB Gracuate Counsel to see to it  that the GDB Site is redesigned
> to permit Windows access by the blind.
> 
> Peter Donahue
> 
> 
> 
> 
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