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to: James Adams
from: Gene McAloon
date: 2003-11-06 17:35:44
subject: Re: Life, the universe, and everything

From: Gene McAloon 

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:04:43 -0500, James Adams  wrote:

>> he is a man, and therefore fallible, even to
>> Catholics.
>
>Not when he peaks on matters of faith.  Papal infallibility is just one
>of my many disagreements with the RC church.

No, not on matters of faith. That is too broad. The pope is considered
infallible only when speaking "officially" on matter of doctrine 
Formally it is
called speaking ex cathedra. On top of that, there are disputes even among
Catholic theologians on what is a matter of doctrine and what is not.  The
popes
"infallibility" is in fact greatly restricted.

Worse yet for supporters of infallibility, that "doctrine" is
only about 130 years old. There are still many within the church,
particularly among the laity,
who don't accept its legitimacy. It is a concept that only conservative
Catholics, including popes, want to see continue.

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