On Thursday, 7 January 1999,
     MARK LEWIS wrote to DAVID NOON about emx 0.9d

 DN>> I presume you are still trying to build emx, rather than being
 DN>> in a position to build Apache.

 ML> actually, i as can tell, emx and gcc are already made... i was
 ML> attempting to make dmake to test that... i have been back thru it
 ML> more and i think i need header files from some toolkit??

  Yes, you're right, emx/gcc is "already made" :)

  And for that dmake stuff, why don't you just use the plain old GNU
  make? If you slurped the whole zip from pub/incoming on Hobbes, you
  already have it!

 DN>> I don't use DMAKE, but all make utilities require a makefile
 DN>> of some sort. Did you find the emx makefile?

 ML> yes, i believe i have... i can post if if necessary ;-)

  Don't get frightened by make files, they can be quite versatile
  actually. I use a generic makefile I designed, so for every new
  project of mine, I only have to modify not more than 5-6 lines in it
  (and sometimes as little as one line, depending on the number of files
  and libraries I use in the project), mostly editing some values of
  variables. It does all the rest of the work, INCLUDING automatically
  generating the dependencies for all the needed source files when new
  header files are added or changed! Much faster than clicking your way
  through dialog boxes to add the files to the project window in most
  IDE's.

  As for the editor, I DEFINITELY recommend FTE (free/GNU). You can find
  it on Hobbes. It's simply a pleasure to grind C/C++ code in this
  editor, and if you get it, please open some large C/C++ file in it,
  and press Ctrl-I. You'll fall on your arse!

 And when you need to compile the program(s) you're editing, just hit
 Ctrl-F2 to save all the files you're currently editing, and than F9.
 You can invoke make, gcc or whatever from inside the editor, and it
 then captures the output from the compiler in a separate edit window,
 and you can continue editing while the compiler crunches away in the
 background! When the compiler is done, FTE parses it's output for any
 potential errors/warnings (while you're still editing, it doesn't
 freeze), and can position you to the lines which contain errors in your
 source, at your command. Now how's THAT for an IDE? :)

 ML> ml>>he'p me! he'p me! he'p me understand this stuff and what
 ML> ml>>i'm doing wrong... supposedly i can use dmake to recompile
 ML> ml>>itself... the DMAKE38 archive has dmake.exe that shows a
 ML> ml>>emx0.9a text string in it as viewed with a hex editor... i
 ML> ml>>wanted to test by recompiling an emx 0.9d version but that
 ML> ml>>fails miserably... supposedly there's also a make.cmd file
 ML> ml>>but i haven't found one that isn't hardcoded in it's
 ML> ml>>actions...

  If you wanna recompile dmake, you'll probably already have to have
  some kind of make util on your system, presumably an earlier version
  of dmake, or GNU make (which I'm sure you have). In the dmake source
  directory there should be a file called "Makefile" which contains all
  the instructions how to compile dmake, and this is the file that make
  utilities first look at when invoked with no parameters. Or
  alternatively, there may be a make.cmd in that directory, which
  executes all the commands directly.

 ML> oh yes... like i say above, i've actually compiled some few things
 ML> with it but until i can get dmake or bake or something that works
 ML> to make with, i'm kinda lost... i remember reading about bake when
 ML> it came out... if it'll work with "normal" make files, maybe i'll
 ML> try to bake everything instead of making them... i like cooking
 ML> better than i do laboring anyway, hahaha...

  Well YOU DON'T REALLY NEED DMAKE! Just go into the emx/samples
  directory, and type "make" (to invoke GNU make you already have)!
  It'll do the right thing, and all the examples will be made in one
  sweep for you. And later, when you're seek of trying them out, you
  just type "make clean" in the same dir, and all the executables and
  objects files, indeed all the files which can be remade from the
  sources will be gone, and the directory will be returned in its
  original state.

 Please look at the gnuinfo.zip file (if you haven't already unpacked
 it) and see if you can set it up. The GNU info is the help system for
 all that Unix stuff, and you'll find a DETAILED description of GNU make
 along with a lot of stuff with examples in there...

                                                            - Ivan -

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