IT>   And for that dmake stuff, why don't you just use the plain
 IT> old GNU make? If you slurped the whole zip from pub/incoming on
 IT> Hobbes, you already have it!

hahaha, probably! i haven't had any real time to do any delving into what
all i do have spread over this 10gigs of storage... i just can't keep my
clients from calling for this or that long enough to to even get a good
sneeze out ;-(

 DN>>> I don't use DMAKE, but all make utilities require a makefile
 DN>>> of some sort. Did you find the emx makefile?

 ML>> yes, i believe i have... i can post if if necessary ;-)

 IT>   Don't get frightened by make files, they can be quite
 IT> versatile actually. I use a generic makefile I designed,
 IT> so for every new project of mine, I only have to modify
 IT> not more than 5-6 lines in it (and sometimes as little
 IT> as one line, depending on the number of files and libraries
 IT> I use in the project), mostly editing some values of
 IT> variables. It does all the rest of the work, INCLUDING
 IT> automatically generating the dependencies for all the
 IT> needed source files when new header files are added or
 IT> changed! Much faster than clicking your way through dialog
 IT> boxes to add the files to the project window in most IDE's.

i've been very spoiled by the turbo pascal ide for years... longer than
i've been in fidonet, AAMOF ... all i've ever really done was key
in code and put a USES line at the top when i needed routines held in other
libraries... the ide/compiler took care of everything else for me...

i guess it's kinda like the differences between fidonet mailers...
frontdoor has a lot of things "built in" that systems like
binkley have to use external programs to do...

 IT> As for the editor, I DEFINITELY recommend FTE (free/GNU).
 IT> You can find it on Hobbes. It's simply a pleasure to grind
 IT> C/C++ code in this editor, and if you get it, please open
 IT> some large C/C++ file in it, and press Ctrl-I. You'll fall
 IT> on your arse!

i may have to do just just to get a good falling down, hahaha... i haven't
had a good natural one in ages... seems that most of the latest ones have
been from meds or alchol and they're not any fun any more OB-)

 IT>  And when you need to compile the program(s) you're editing,
 IT> just hit Ctrl-F2 to save all the files you're currently
 IT> editing, and than F9. You can invoke make, gcc or whatever
 IT> from inside the editor, and it then captures the output from
 IT> the compiler in a separate edit window, and you can continue
 IT> editing while the compiler crunches away in the background!
 IT> When the compiler is done, FTE parses it's output for any
 IT> potential errors/warnings (while you're still editing, it
 IT> doesn't freeze), and can position you to the lines which
 IT> contain errors in your source, at your command. Now how's
 IT> THAT for an IDE? :)

sounds very much like what i'm used... other than the background processing ;-)

 IT> directory there should be a file called "Makefile" which
 IT> contains all the instructions how to compile dmake, and
 IT> this is the file that make utilities first look at when
 IT> invoked with no parameters. Or alternatively, there may
 IT> be a make.cmd in that directory, which executes all the
 IT> commands directly.

you've likely already seen my follow up WRT this... i'll read on 

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