Hello Kurt:
11 Dec 96 (at 11:22), Kurt Wismer wrote to Manuel Llorens:
 ML>> I think this echo is fine, and I know lots of people here
 ML>> havin' a lot of knowledge about virus/antivirus stuff. But
 ML>> many times this echo looks like a help echo, though I think
 KW> thats because so many people who have written viruses have also
 KW> released them... i think fully half the hard feelings av guys have
 KW> towards viruses and virus writers is from the hassle they have to go
 KW> through cleaning up messes...
 Yes, and that's not bad... of course.
 ML>> it could be something better (helping people's problems is
 KW> something better? in what way?
 In the way I've described in the last msg. We could just improve it!
 ML>> By the other way I think this is the place in Fido to talk about
 ML>> it. What do you think about that? How do you think future virus
 ML>> will be? And  antivirus? How do you think they _should_ be? Of
 KW> viruses in the future? vxd infectors would be my guess (if it hasn't
 KW> already been done)... possibly more kernel infectors, or possibly an
 KW> trend towards linux viruses if that free, multitasking operating
 Probably...
 KW> system ever manages to encroach apon microsofts market share... of
 KW> course then theres macro viruses for programs other than word... word
 KW> perfect maybe, or lotus, or any other popular application...
 I think they will become more 'intelligent' since they can become bigger 
than ever. Maybe they could have enough space to use some kind of 'heuristic' 
scan of AV software, and so they could know what the AVs are doing :-???
 KW> though these days it seems that most virus groups have been flushed
 KW> down the drain by their own politics... the percentage of lame virus
 KW> hacks and "generated" viruses will probably increase because of it...
 ...and many new zines will help lamers to make new silly viruses...
 KW> as for the future of anti-virus, i can conceive of nothing more
 KW> convenient than scanning... it may be augmented by things like
 hmmm... and integrity checkers will become almost perfect. Anyway there are 
still some new techniques to avoid those checkers... I will be please to show 
you by net if you like to, and only if you are going to use them right (don't 
know if you have ever meet some AV researcher). Hope Rod not to kick me out 
since I'm only trying to show AV programmers some new virus techniques that 
they may not know by the moment... and not trying to show anyothers how to 
make more perfect viruses... at least not from this echo ;-)
 KW> be of any use or b) implimenting heuristics in a whole new way...
 Like a complete PC emulator ;-))) That will be useful only to test some 
specific program, but not to scan a HD; but sure it will be a perfect tool to 
analyze viruses.
Greets :)
  Patuel, Pilgrim Cosysop of EDiSoN'S TeMPLe
  patuel@temple.subred.org * no files please
... Tal vez, s¢lo los genios son verdaderos hombres.
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