From: John Cuccia 

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:38:18 +0100, Adam  wrote:

>John Cuccia wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 23:25:09 +0100, Adam
>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge"> wrote:
>>
>>> John Cuccia wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:50:15 +0200, "Phil Payne"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> What's right about killing civilians , or calling
for genocide?
>>>>> How many dozens on the Israeli side?  How many thousand on the
Palestinian
>>>>> side?
>>>> How many billions of the Muslim side?  How many Jews?  You've made
>>>> that point repeatedly.  Israel cannot win a war of attrition, and
>>>> their enemies still don't recognize their right to exist.
>>>>
>>>> What would you suggest?
>>> They could start treating the Arabs as equals & get off
their militarist
>>> track.
>>
>> That sounds great as long as you continue to ignore the large number
>> of Arabs who won't rest until Israel is gone from the Middle East.   A
>> demilitarized Israel wouldn't last 5 years as an independent state.
>>
>> So, what's option #2?
>
>Who said "demilitarized"? Militarism is a state of mind/politics.
>
>
>...the mil...the mil is the...the mil is the answer....

OK, I get that.  So what should the Israeli response be to random attacks
on their military and civilian infrastructure?

>WRT the large number of Arabs, it was the case that most of the Gulf
>Arabs, the Saudis, Yemenis etc not to mention the Jordanians & Egyptians
>had reconciled themselves to an Israel.

Maybe the ruling elite in those countries had done so, maybe they were just
paying lip service to the West.  Meanwhile, religious leaders/teachers
continued to a couple of generations of children that Israel was evil and
needed to be removed from the Middle East.

>Personally I blame Netanyahu as when he came into power the Arabs were
>saying "OK let's just get some equality for the Palestinians & that will
>happen...." & then Netenyahu basically killed Oslo by going hell for
>leather building new settlements.

So do you think there a solution that will provide Paletinians with that
equality and Israel with some protection from attack?

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