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to: Phil Payne
from: Adam
date: 2006-08-02 23:21:34
subject: Re: OIl price rises...

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Phil Payne wrote:
>>> WAY to simplistic.  Just how did the Soviets take out that 75%...
>
>> The T34 & massive losses.
>
> Huge losses - from 3:1 to 7:1 over the Germans.  Demographics wins again.
>
>> If you're going to fight with tanks then have the best & the most. If
>> you can't have the best & the most then have the 2nd best
& the most.
>
>> The T34 was the best tank of WW2 & they made enormous
quantities of them.
>
> They moved the whole of their tank production behind the Urals practically
> overnight.  The first T34 the Germans met destroyed nine German vehicles -
> most armoured - before it was stopped.  One was taken to Germany and
> discounted as poorly manufacturered - but the truth was that the Soviets had
> only bothered finishing what needed to be finished - exterior welds were not
> ground down, for instance.
>

Which oddly enough the germans learnt from in that they found their
magnetic/sticky bombs wouldn't stick which is how come they ended up
roughening their tanks with zimmerit.

>> That & the Red Airforce was able to achieve tactical superiority over
>> the battlefield starting with Stalingrad.
>
> That really started at Kursk when the Soviet Air Force caught a very
> weakened Luftwaffe on the ground.  The Germans had just lost 40% of their
> serviceable aircraft in the eastern Mediterranean.
>

Yup But it was Stalingrad where the Red airforce achieved tactical
dominance thus dooming the 6th army.

Adam

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