From: "Rich Gauszka" 


nope

"Mark"  wrote in message
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> Oh c'mon Rich, "Bush abridging our rights" is right out of moonbat
> central, and you know it 
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:44daa7af{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Unpleasant  facts that don't fit into your world view do not constitute
>> fear mongering. Bush abridging our rights while constantly yelling
>> terrorist does
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>> news:44daa672$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> So you say, and so all the usual pundits say. I say, as I already did,
>>> if Turkey is smart they'll embrace that relative calm and profit from
>>> it, as will Kurdistan >> smart>
>>>
>>> I don't believe in the consistent doom and gloom scenarios being played
>>> out as inevitable by all the "smart" people out
there -- you seem to buy
>>> into their analysis from afar, that's your right Rich, but excuse me if
>>> I don't agree with the fear mongering.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:44daa4f5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Turkey claims oil fields and land in Kurdistan.  Turkey also has 13
>>>> million ethnic Kurds and  has been battling the PKK for
decades.  One
>>>> man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.  Once the
Iraqi civil war
>>>> really gets going watch the Turks come over the border under the
>>>> pretext of keeping the peace. They see an independent Kurdistan as a
>>>> major threat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>>> news:44daa215$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> If Turkey is smart, they'll embrace the relative calm
of Kurdistan,
>>>>> and encourage their economic growth which will present
no threat, real
>>>>> or imagined, to their own sovereignty. Rather, it will
supplement it.
>>>>> >>>> surely be Bush's fault for one reason or another over
in moonbat land>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:44da9d80$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> Unfortunately the facts dispute your claim. The
Kurds claim ancestral
>>>>>> land in Turkey. The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)
is the Kurdish
>>>>>> resistance in Turkey.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.kurdmedia.com/news.asp?id=12972
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Turkish Army and the Turkish Jandarma
(paramilitary police) have
>>>>>> some 260,000 to 265,000 forces already stationed
in south-eastern
>>>>>> Turkey, ready to move in strength into Kurdistan
if necessary. Since
>>>>>> March 2006, the Turkish Army has conducted 53
operations into Iraqi
>>>>>> Kurdistan, ostensibly against bases and assets of
the Kurdish
>>>>>> Workers' Party (PKK: Partiya Karkerˆn Kurdistan),
but in reality much
>>>>>> of the activity has been to build a network of
capabilities based on
>>>>>> the Turcomen of the region. Significantly, one of
the Turkish
>>>>>> operations against the PKK was conducted with
Iranian forces, and the
>>>>>> Iranians have themselves conducted eight
operations against the PKK
>>>>>> since March 2006.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The PKK responded with 69 operations against
Turkish targets, and
>>>>>> during the ongoing operations from March 2006
until the end of July
>>>>>> 2006, the Turkish forces suffered 165 casualties,
including 144
>>>>>> soldiers, seven junior Army officers, and a
lieutenant-colonel. As
>>>>>> well, 36 Iranian troops were killed during the
period, and 43 PKK
>>>>>> combatants were known casualties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FA9FB7DC-F815-475E-BBB8-ECDBD8079
E90.htm
>>>>>> At the same time, Ankara has been threatening to
send its forces
>>>>>> across the frontier with northern Iraq to attack
rebel Kurdistan
>>>>>> Workers Party (PKK) bases over the border - and
has accused the US of
>>>>>> double standards in trying to prevent such a move.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The way they (the US) look at terror there
(in Israel) and in Turkey
>>>>>> is not the same," Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the
Turkish prime minister,
>>>>>> told reporters last week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "They show tolerance towards country A and
show a different approach
>>>>>> to country B. This is unacceptable."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Ankara, emergency parliamentary meetings have
been held and there
>>>>>> is talk of bringing back emergency rule - one step
away from martial
>>>>>> law - to the southeast, an area of about a quarter
of the country and
>>>>>> home to many of Turkey's estimated 13 million ethnic Kurds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talk of getting tough on the PKK is also widely applauded by
>>>>>> nationalist parties and many ordinary Turks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>>>>> news:44da99f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> The Kurds don't want problems with Turkey,
they are having an
>>>>>>> economic boom because they provide a
relatively secure and safe
>>>>>>> political environment for private property
owners and investors.  A
>>>>>>> story on this fact of life for the Kurdish
portion of Iraq was aired
>>>>>>> earlier today on one of the cable network news
channels.  Guys from
>>>>>>> Texas (already millionaires) building
apartments and other real
>>>>>>> estate developments in the Kurdish portion of
Iraq.  Huge real
>>>>>>> estate boom appears to be going on there. 
People relocating there
>>>>>>> from elsewhere in Iraq.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jim Adams"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:44da90c0{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>> If there is a civil war that spreads
outside of the Baghdad area
>>>>>>>>> perhaps it could spread into Iran and Syria.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let's not forget Turkey.  How happy do you
think they will be to
>>>>>>>> have a Kurdish republic on their border?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jim Adams
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do not reply to this E-mail address.  Reply to
>>>>>>>> jsadams{at}compuserve.com
>>>>>>>
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