From: "Mark" 

Oh c'mon Rich, "Bush abridging our rights" is right out of
moonbat central, and you know it 

"Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
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> Unpleasant  facts that don't fit into your world view do not constitute
> fear mongering. Bush abridging our rights while constantly yelling
> terrorist does
>
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> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>> So you say, and so all the usual pundits say. I say, as I already did, if
>> Turkey is smart they'll embrace that relative calm and profit from it, as
>> will Kurdistan 
>>
>> I don't believe in the consistent doom and gloom scenarios being played
>> out as inevitable by all the "smart" people out there --
you seem to buy
>> into their analysis from afar, that's your right Rich, but excuse me if I
>> don't agree with the fear mongering.
>>
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:44daa4f5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> Turkey claims oil fields and land in Kurdistan.  Turkey also has 13
>>> million ethnic Kurds and  has been battling the PKK for decades.  One
>>> man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.  Once the Iraqi civil war
>>> really gets going watch the Turks come over the border under the pretext
>>> of keeping the peace. They see an independent Kurdistan as a major
>>> threat
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>> news:44daa215$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> If Turkey is smart, they'll embrace the relative calm of
Kurdistan, and
>>>> encourage their economic growth which will present no
threat, real or
>>>> imagined, to their own sovereignty. Rather, it will
supplement it. >>> think Turkey will prove to be smart, but if they're not,
it will surely
>>>> be Bush's fault for one reason or another over in moonbat land>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:44da9d80$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> Unfortunately the facts dispute your claim. The Kurds
claim ancestral
>>>>> land in Turkey. The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) is the Kurdish
>>>>> resistance in Turkey.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.kurdmedia.com/news.asp?id=12972
>>>>>
>>>>> The Turkish Army and the Turkish Jandarma
(paramilitary police) have
>>>>> some 260,000 to 265,000 forces already stationed in
south-eastern
>>>>> Turkey, ready to move in strength into Kurdistan if
necessary. Since
>>>>> March 2006, the Turkish Army has conducted 53
operations into Iraqi
>>>>> Kurdistan, ostensibly against bases and assets of the
Kurdish Workers'
>>>>> Party (PKK: Partiya Karkerˆn Kurdistan), but in
reality much of the
>>>>> activity has been to build a network of capabilities
based on the
>>>>> Turcomen of the region. Significantly, one of the
Turkish operations
>>>>> against the PKK was conducted with Iranian forces, and
the Iranians
>>>>> have themselves conducted eight operations against the
PKK since March
>>>>> 2006.
>>>>>
>>>>> The PKK responded with 69 operations against Turkish
targets, and
>>>>> during the ongoing operations from March 2006 until
the end of July
>>>>> 2006, the Turkish forces suffered 165 casualties, including 144
>>>>> soldiers, seven junior Army officers, and a
lieutenant-colonel. As
>>>>> well, 36 Iranian troops were killed during the period,
and 43 PKK
>>>>> combatants were known casualties.
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FA9FB7DC-F815-475E-BBB8-ECDBD8079E
90.htm
>>>>> At the same time, Ankara has been threatening to send its forces
>>>>> across the frontier with northern Iraq to attack rebel Kurdistan
>>>>> Workers Party (PKK) bases over the border - and has
accused the US of
>>>>> double standards in trying to prevent such a move.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The way they (the US) look at terror there (in
Israel) and in Turkey
>>>>> is not the same," Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the
Turkish prime minister,
>>>>> told reporters last week.
>>>>>
>>>>> "They show tolerance towards country A and show a
different approach
>>>>> to country B. This is unacceptable."
>>>>>
>>>>> In Ankara, emergency parliamentary meetings have been
held and there
>>>>> is talk of bringing back emergency rule - one step
away from martial
>>>>> law - to the southeast, an area of about a quarter of
the country and
>>>>> home to many of Turkey's estimated 13 million ethnic Kurds.
>>>>>
>>>>> Talk of getting tough on the PKK is also widely applauded by
>>>>> nationalist parties and many ordinary Turks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:44da99f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> The Kurds don't want problems with Turkey, they
are having an
>>>>>> economic boom because they provide a relatively
secure and safe
>>>>>> political environment for private property owners
and investors.  A
>>>>>> story on this fact of life for the Kurdish portion
of Iraq was aired
>>>>>> earlier today on one of the cable network news
channels.  Guys from
>>>>>> Texas (already millionaires) building apartments
and other real
>>>>>> estate developments in the Kurdish portion of
Iraq.  Huge real estate
>>>>>> boom appears to be going on there.  People
relocating there from
>>>>>> elsewhere in Iraq.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jim Adams"
 wrote in message
>>>>>> news:44da90c0{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> If there is a civil war that spreads
outside of the Baghdad area
>>>>>>>> perhaps it could spread into Iran and Syria.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's not forget Turkey.  How happy do you
think they will be to
>>>>>>> have a Kurdish republic on their border?
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Jim Adams
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do not reply to this E-mail address.  Reply to
>>>>>>> jsadams{at}compuserve.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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