From: "Rich Gauszka" 

Unpleasant  facts that don't fit into your world view do not constitute
fear mongering. Bush abridging our rights while constantly yelling
terrorist does


"Mark"  wrote in message
news:44daa672$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> So you say, and so all the usual pundits say. I say, as I already did, if
> Turkey is smart they'll embrace that relative calm and profit from it, as
> will Kurdistan 
>
> I don't believe in the consistent doom and gloom scenarios being played
> out as inevitable by all the "smart" people out there -- you
seem to buy
> into their analysis from afar, that's your right Rich, but excuse me if I
> don't agree with the fear mongering.
>
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:44daa4f5$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Turkey claims oil fields and land in Kurdistan.  Turkey also has 13
>> million ethnic Kurds and  has been battling the PKK for decades.  One
>> man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.  Once the Iraqi civil war
>> really gets going watch the Turks come over the border under the pretext
>> of keeping the peace. They see an independent Kurdistan as a major threat
>>
>>
>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>> news:44daa215$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> If Turkey is smart, they'll embrace the relative calm of Kurdistan, and
>>> encourage their economic growth which will present no threat, real or
>>> imagined, to their own sovereignty. Rather, it will supplement it. >> think Turkey will prove to be smart, but if they're not, it will surely
>>> be Bush's fault for one reason or another over in moonbat land>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:44da9d80$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Unfortunately the facts dispute your claim. The Kurds
claim ancestral
>>>> land in Turkey. The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) is the Kurdish
>>>> resistance in Turkey.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kurdmedia.com/news.asp?id=12972
>>>>
>>>> The Turkish Army and the Turkish Jandarma (paramilitary police) have
>>>> some 260,000 to 265,000 forces already stationed in south-eastern
>>>> Turkey, ready to move in strength into Kurdistan if necessary. Since
>>>> March 2006, the Turkish Army has conducted 53 operations into Iraqi
>>>> Kurdistan, ostensibly against bases and assets of the
Kurdish Workers'
>>>> Party (PKK: Partiya Karkerˆn Kurdistan), but in reality much of the
>>>> activity has been to build a network of capabilities based on the
>>>> Turcomen of the region. Significantly, one of the Turkish operations
>>>> against the PKK was conducted with Iranian forces, and the Iranians
>>>> have themselves conducted eight operations against the PKK
since March
>>>> 2006.
>>>>
>>>> The PKK responded with 69 operations against Turkish targets, and
>>>> during the ongoing operations from March 2006 until the end of July
>>>> 2006, the Turkish forces suffered 165 casualties, including 144
>>>> soldiers, seven junior Army officers, and a lieutenant-colonel. As
>>>> well, 36 Iranian troops were killed during the period, and 43 PKK
>>>> combatants were known casualties.
>>>>
>>>>
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/FA9FB7DC-F815-475E-BBB8-ECDBD8079E9
0.htm
>>>> At the same time, Ankara has been threatening to send its
forces across
>>>> the frontier with northern Iraq to attack rebel Kurdistan
Workers Party
>>>> (PKK) bases over the border - and has accused the US of double
>>>> standards in trying to prevent such a move.
>>>>
>>>> "The way they (the US) look at terror there (in
Israel) and in Turkey
>>>> is not the same," Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish
prime minister,
>>>> told reporters last week.
>>>>
>>>> "They show tolerance towards country A and show a
different approach to
>>>> country B. This is unacceptable."
>>>>
>>>> In Ankara, emergency parliamentary meetings have been held
and there is
>>>> talk of bringing back emergency rule - one step away from
martial law -
>>>> to the southeast, an area of about a quarter of the
country and home to
>>>> many of Turkey's estimated 13 million ethnic Kurds.
>>>>
>>>> Talk of getting tough on the PKK is also widely applauded by
>>>> nationalist parties and many ordinary Turks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>>> news:44da99f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> The Kurds don't want problems with Turkey, they are
having an economic
>>>>> boom because they provide a relatively secure and safe political
>>>>> environment for private property owners and investors.
 A story on
>>>>> this fact of life for the Kurdish portion of Iraq was
aired earlier
>>>>> today on one of the cable network news channels.  Guys
from Texas
>>>>> (already millionaires) building apartments and other real estate
>>>>> developments in the Kurdish portion of Iraq.  Huge
real estate boom
>>>>> appears to be going on there.  People relocating there
from elsewhere
>>>>> in Iraq.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jim Adams" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:44da90c0{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>> If there is a civil war that spreads outside
of the Baghdad area
>>>>>>> perhaps it could spread into Iran and Syria.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's not forget Turkey.  How happy do you think
they will be to have
>>>>>> a Kurdish republic on their border?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jim Adams
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do not reply to this E-mail address.  Reply to
jsadams{at}compuserve.com
>>>>>
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