From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Monte Davis wrote:
> Adam  wrote:
>
>> Yeah but the Eastern front only occurs in German & Russian literature
>> (with the exception of the Sven Hassel books & the "Cross
of Iron" Film).
>>
>>
>> Other than that it was John Wayne wot won the War.
>
> Out of date, Adam (or true today only if like Phil you restrict your
> view to the US's dimmest -- Coulter, Savage, FOX, the Weekly Standard,
> our President -- and through that kind of filter no country comes off
> well.)
>



> I see a lot more balanced treatment of all the Allies' role in WWII
> even in "general literate" venues -- newsmagazines, History Channel,
> Smithsonian etc -- today than I did 30 years ago, when I was writing
> about the war for a big pop history book. At that point I had to
> educate one of the publishert's consultants, a colonel (ret.) and West
> Point mil.hist. teacher, who was under the impression that Kursk had
> been about the same scale as Market Garden...

I have to say anecdotally that most Americans I meet are almost oblivious
that the Soviets were even involved. The rest are better informed. I had a
long chat in a casino restaurant in Las Vegas with one very well informed
bod.

>
> And even then it was perceptibly better than it had been when I was a
> boy in the 1950s. Hell, remember my family background -- I imbibed
> genetically the view not only that WWII hinged upon the war with Japan
> (John Wayne, Sands of Iwo Jima), but that the central battle there was
> US Marine PR vs Douglas MacArthur's PR. :-)
>



It woz won in Iwo Jima.....

Adam

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