Re: Test
  By: Michiel van der Vlist to mark lewis on Sat Jun 06 2020 12:44 pm

 > Hello mark,
 >
 > On Friday June 05 2020 09:06, you wrote to me:
 >
 >  ml>>> @MSGID: 2814.fido-fidotest@1:3634/12 233f62a9
 >
 >  MvdV>> "2814.fido-fidotest@1:3634/12" is not a valid return address
 >  MvdV>> for the originating network, as mandated by FTS-009.
 >
 >  ml> it seems to work perfectly fine in the years it has been being used...
 >
 > Your assertion is falsified by Tommi Koivula's observation that at least one
 > software has problems with it.

I just read back through Tommi's posts here and did not find any observation of
any problem with Synchronet/SBBSecho's FTN MSG-IDs. Are you sure about that?

 >  ml> granted the software does not purport to even implement FTS-0009...
 >
 > "Purport" is not in my dictionary, Google translate seems to think it is a
 > noun. Whatever "purport" means in this context, by using the "MSGID"
 > identifier, it certainly suggests ands appears to follow FTS-0009.

Purport is a verb: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/purport

Synonym to "claim". And at least *I* (the author) claim that
Synchronet/SBBSecho implements FTS-9.

 > If it does not implement FTS-0009 but some other means to uniquely identify
 > a message instead, it has hijacked the MSGID identifier.

Nope, no hijacking going on.

 >  MvdV>> An anomaly does not need to be a problem in order to qualify
 >  MvdV>> for reporting.
 >
 >  ml> i agree with you for real anomalies... these are not such
 >
 > So you say, but the classification of "real" vs "not real" is entirely
 > yours. That it is not a "real" anomaly and therefore does not qualify for
 > reporting is just your opinion, it is not fact.
 >
 >  ml> and have been around in widespread use for decades...
 >
 > "for decades" does not unmake it an anomaly. There is no statue of
 > limitation on anomalies. Many anomalies have been present for centuries and
 > they still are anomalies.
 >
 >  ml> limited horizons are not an excuse ;)
 >
 > "Limited horizon" is a pleonasm. An horizon is always a limit. By
 > definition.

Speaking of "limited horizons", let's take a look at the MSG-ID of your posted
message: 2:280/5555 5edb7807

Huh... that "53db7808" looks suspiciously like a Unix time_t value:
time_t   1591441415  (0x5EDB7807)    ISO 2020-06-06 04:03:35.000-07:00

So what happens on *your* system when 2 users (if you have any) post a message
in the same message area within the same wall-clock second? You, my friend,
have a broken FTN MSG-ID generation algorithm there on *your* system. You
should fix that, not that I really care. FTN systems are already broken in so
many ways, what's another? :-)

                                            digital man

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