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Adam,

For a change, I agree. The U.S. govt is using a loophole in the law with =
the Gitmo detainees. As an initial strategy to hold them while the =
prosecution teams get their act together, I could accept it (while not =
liking it). But it has gone on way too long. Give'm them lawyers, put =
'em on trial and then hang them ;->

--=20
john

oellrich{at}earthlink.net
  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message =
news:3fc478f3{at}w3.nls.net...
  http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/11/25/guantanamo.judge/index.html

  "LONDON, England -- One of Britain's top judges has condemned the U.S. =

  for what he called a "monstrous failure of justice" over its detention =

  of terrorist suspects at Guantanamo Bay.

  In a speech Tuesday evening in London, Law Lord Johan Steyn told an=20
  audience that the U.S. was acting illegally in holding suspects at the =

  U.S. military base without trial and without access to legal=20
  representation, Britain's Channel Four News reported.

  "The purpose of holding the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay was and is to=20
  put them beyond the rule of law, beyond the protection of any courts =
and=20
  at the mercy of victors," he was quoted as saying.

  His comments were criticized by a legal advisor to the Pentagon who =
said=20
  Styen does not understand the type of battle the U.S. in engaged in.

  "These are people who intended to kill innocent civilians in our=20
  opinion," lawyer Ruth Wedgwood said. "


  "However, in his speech Tuesday evening, Lord Steyn rejected the Bush=20
  administration's position urging the British government to =
unambiguously=20
  condemn the "lawlessness" of the detentions, Channel Four News =
reported.

  "As a lawyer brought up to admire the ideals of American democracy and =

  justice I would have to say that I regard this as a monstrous failure =
of=20
  justice," he said. "

  What American ideals of democracy & justice?

  Adam

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Adam,
 
For a change, I agree. The U.S. govt is using a loophole in the law =
with=20
the Gitmo detainees. As an initial strategy to hold them while the = prosecution=20
teams get their act together, I could accept it (while not liking
= it). But=20
it has gone on way too long. Give'm them lawyers, put 'em on trial and = then hang=20
them ;->
-- john
 
oellrich{at}earthlink.net">mailto:oellrich{at}earthlink.net">oellrich{at}earthlink.net

  "Adam Flinton" <adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=">mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com">adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=
>=20
  wrote in message news:3fc478f3{at}w3.nls.net...http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/11/25/guantanamo.judge/index=
.html">http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/11/25/guantanamo.judge/index.=
html"LONDON,=20
  England -- One of Britain's top judges has condemned the U.S. for =
what he=20
  called a "monstrous failure of justice" over its detention of =
terrorist=20
  suspects at Guantanamo Bay.In a speech Tuesday evening in =
London, Law=20
  Lord Johan Steyn told an audience that the U.S. was acting =
illegally in=20
  holding suspects at the U.S. military base without trial and =
without=20
  access to legal representation, Britain's Channel Four News=20
  reported."The purpose of holding the prisoners
at Guantanamo =
Bay was=20
  and is to put them beyond the rule of law, beyond the protection =
of any=20
  courts and at the mercy of victors," he was quoted as =
saying.His=20
  comments were criticized by a legal advisor to the Pentagon who said =
Styen=20
  does not understand the type of battle the U.S. in engaged =
in."These=20
  are people who intended to kill innocent civilians in our =
opinion," lawyer=20
  Ruth Wedgwood said. ""However, in
his speech Tuesday =
evening, Lord=20
  Steyn rejected the Bush administration's position urging the =
British=20
  government to unambiguously condemn the "lawlessness" of the =
detentions,=20
  Channel Four News reported."As a lawyer brought
up to admire =
the=20
  ideals of American democracy and justice I would have to say that =
I regard=20
  this as a monstrous failure of justice," he said.
"What =
American=20
  ideals of democracy & =
justice?Adam

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