From: "John Oellrich" 

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Phil,

I doubt that it is a shock to the Defense Dept. It was obviously Bush's =
legal advisers that dreamed up this scheme and then foisted it on the =
military.=20

And where are the military tribunals that were supposed to handle these =
"evil-doers"?



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john

oellrich{at}earthlink.net
  "Phil Payne"  wrote in message =
news:3FCC6EF3.94DF9AC8{at}isham-research.com...
  =
http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031202.wxguantan02/BNSt=
ory/International/

  ""I think the Supreme Court decision [to hear a jurisdictional case] =
came
  as a big shock" to the U.S. Defence Department, which deliberately =
chose to
  keep the detainees offshore and thus beyond the protection of American
  laws.

  After releasing only 84 detainees since the prison camp was set up =
nearly
  two years ago, the Pentagon is expected to ship out well over 100 in =
coming
  weeks."

  I wonder just how much noise some of them will make.  A few dozen =
legal
  actions against the USA for human rights violations, kidnapping and =
torture
  won't make good publicity next year.

  It wouldn't surprise me if some countries were to become permanently
  out-of-bounds to Dubya because of outstanding arrest warrants with his =
name
  on them.

  "Mr. Greenberger suggested that the government's effort to rid =
Guantanamo
  Bay of all but "the so-called bad guys" may damage its claim that =
holding
  enemy combatants at the prison camp is justified."

  Even then, in most justice systems it's up to a court and not a tyrant =
to
  decide who's a bad guy.

  --=20
    Phil Payne
    http://www.isham-research.com
    +44 7785 302 803
    +49 173 6242039
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Phil,
 
I doubt that it is a shock to the Defense Dept. It was obviously =
Bush's=20
legal advisers that dreamed up this scheme and then foisted it on the = military.=20

 
And where are the military tribunals that were supposed to handle =
these=20
"evil-doers"?
 
 
-- john
 
oellrich{at}earthlink.net">mailto:oellrich{at}earthlink.net">oellrich{at}earthlink.net

  "Phil Payne" <philp{at}isham-research.com>=">mailto:philp{at}isham-research.com">philp{at}isham-research.com>=
 wrote=20
  in message news:3FCC6EF3.94DF9AC8=
{at}isham-research.com...http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031202.wxguanta=
n02/BNStory/International/">http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTG=
AM.20031202.wxguantan02/BNStory/International/""I=20
  think the Supreme Court decision [to hear a jurisdictional case] =
cameas a=20
  big shock" to the U.S. Defence Department, which deliberately chose =
tokeep=20
  the detainees offshore and thus beyond the protection of=20
  Americanlaws.After releasing only 84
detainees since the =
prison=20
  camp was set up nearlytwo years ago, the Pentagon is expected to =
ship out=20
  well over 100 in comingweeks."I wonder
just how much noise =
some of=20
  them will make.  A few dozen legalactions against the USA for =
human=20
  rights violations, kidnapping and torturewon't make good publicity =
next=20
  year.It wouldn't surprise me if some countries were
to become=20
  permanentlyout-of-bounds to Dubya because of outstanding arrest =
warrants=20
  with his nameon them."Mr. Greenberger
suggested that the=20
  government's effort to rid GuantanamoBay of all but "the so-called =
bad=20
  guys" may damage its claim that holdingenemy combatants at the =
prison camp=20
  is justified."Even then, in most justice systems
it's up to a =
court=20
  and not a tyrant todecide who's a bad
guy.--   =
Phil=20
  Payne  http://www.isham-research.com<" target="new">http://www.isham-research.com<=">http://www.isham-research.com">http://www.isham-research.com<=
BR> =20
  +44 7785 302 803  +49 173
6242039

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