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to: Adam Flinton
from: John Oellrich
date: 2003-12-03 00:01:34
subject: Re: UK Law lord not happy with GT

From: "John Oellrich" 

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Adam,

As I said, get them in to courts where there are judges who will =
determine what evidence is acceptable.

And then if found not guilty, they can sue under any number of laws.

--=20
john

oellrich{at}earthlink.net
  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message =
news:3fcc6494{at}w3.nls.net...
  John Oellrich wrote:

  > Adam,
  > =20
  > That is for the courts to decide. I just want to get them in to the =
courts.
  >=20

  How though? What evidence could be used against them? & If they are=20
  found innocent will the people who kidnapped them also be in court?


  Adam

  > --=20
  > john
  > =20
  > oellrich{at}earthlink.net 
  >=20
  >     "Adam Flinton"      > wrote in message
  >     news:3fcb37f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >     John Oellrich wrote:
  >=20
  >      > Adam,
  >      >=20
  >      > For a change, I agree. The U.S. govt is using a loophole in =
the
  >     law with
  >      > the Gitmo detainees. As an initial strategy to hold them =
while the
  >      > prosecution teams get their act together, I could accept it
  >     (while not
  >      > liking it). But it has gone on way too long. Give'm them =
lawyers,
  >     put
  >      > 'em on trial and then hang them ;->
  >      >
  >=20
  >     So if they're put on trial then how will rules of evidence work? =
Also
  >     given the US actions were entirely extra-legal then the people =
are not
  >     within US Jurisdiction legally. Lastly those who are innocent =
should
  >     therefore have a solid case for false imprisonment, torture &
  >     international kidnapping.
  >=20
  >     So when are those who ordered & carried out these actions going =
to be
  >     given their lawyers, tried & jailed or hanged? What is the =
current US
  >     criminal sanction for false imprisonment, torture & =
international
  >     kidnapping?
  >=20
  >=20
  >=20
  >     Adam

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Adam,
 
As I said, get them in to courts where there are judges who will =
determine=20
what evidence is acceptable.
 
And then if found not guilty, they can sue under any number of =
laws.
-- john
 
oellrich{at}earthlink.net">mailto:oellrich{at}earthlink.net">oellrich{at}earthlink.net

  "Adam Flinton" <adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=">mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com">adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=
>=20
  wrote in message news:3fcc6494{at}w3.nls.net...Jo=
hn=20
  Oellrich wrote:>
Adam,>  > That is for =
the=20
  courts to decide. I just want to get them in to the courts.>=20
  How though? What evidence could be used against them?
& If =
they=20
  are found innocent will the people who kidnapped them also be in=20
  court?Adam> --
> john>  =
> oellrich{at}earthlink.net">mailto:oellrich{at}earthlink.net">oellrich{at}earthlink.net
=
<mailto:oellrich{at}earthlink.net&=">mailto:oellrich{at}earthlink.net">mailto:oellrich{at}earthlink.net&=
gt;>=20
  >     "Adam
Flinton" <adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=">mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com">adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com=
>    =20
  <mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.=">mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.com">mailto:adam_NO_{at}_SPAM_softfab.=
com>>=20
  wrote in message>     news:3fcb37f9$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
>    =20
  John Oellrich wrote:>
>      =
>=20
  Adam,>     
>=20
  >     
> For a change, I agree. The =
U.S.=20
  govt is using a loophole in
the>     law=20
  with>     
> the Gitmo detainees. =
As an=20
  initial strategy to hold them while =
the>     =20
  > prosecution teams get their act together, I could accept=20
  it>     (while=20
  not>     
> liking it). But it has =
gone on=20
  way too long. Give'm them
lawyers,>    =20
  put>     
> 'em on trial and then =
hang them=20
 
;->>     
>>=20
  >     So if they're
put on trial then how =
will=20
  rules of evidence work?
Also>     given the =
US=20
  actions were entirely extra-legal then the people are=20
  not>     within US
Jurisdiction legally. =
Lastly=20
  those who are innocent
should>     =
therefore have a=20
  solid case for false imprisonment, torture=20
  &>     international =
kidnapping.>=20
  >     So when are
those who ordered & =
carried=20
  out these actions going to
be>     given =
their=20
  lawyers, tried & jailed or hanged? What is the current=20
  US>     criminal
sanction for false =
imprisonment,=20
  torture &
international>    =20
  kidnapping?> > >
>     =

Adam

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