From: John Beckett 

While I have your attention, I will mention:

* Phil's stream of hyperbole (nazi nazi nazi...) would possibly convince a
parrot, but little else.

* I feel that the "US in Iraq = Evil" position could be argued, but I
don't recall anything convincing here. In general, it is true that you
don't have to offer a better plan before pointing out problems in someone
else's plan. However it seems to me that the "Evil" position will
never be convincing until due recognition is given to the practical
difficulties of combating the 9/11 fanatics. These fanatics are not going
away (look at the religious fruit cakes in the US to see what too much
leisure time can do to those with a certain frame of mind).

The US either has to be so nice to everyone that the fanatics learn to love
them, or the US has to be so nasty that the fanatics decide to go
elsewhere. I don't expect either of these outcomes anytime soon, so we're
in for a rough ride. The appeasing noises from our UK friends here will
only help prolong the mess.

John

Adam Flinton  wrote in message
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> John Beckett wrote:
>
> > For the record, I am not from the US or the UK, and I think it is you is
> > repulsive.
> >
> > The US may be over-reacting, but they are REACTING.
> >
>
> & that is therefore per se good?
>
> Heck so if they started carpet bombing Sydney you'd be out there
> cheering on the basis that hey at least they're reacting?
>
> Adam

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