David Forrester wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 02:22:25 +1000, Mike O'Connor wrote:
>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>Would appreciate it if any of you with one of the following Thinkpads 
>>with a NeoMagic NM2200 [AV256] VGA+Sound chipset could run Veit 
>>Kannegieser's latest edition of pci.exe[**] against it, capture the 
>>output and send to me at mikeoc (at) austarnet (dot) com (dot) au.
>>
>>Any of :
>>
>>- ThinkPad 380, 380D, 380E, 380ED, 380XD and 380Z
>>- ThinkPad 385D, 385ED and 385XD
>>- ThinkPad 560X and 560Z
>>- ThinkPad 600, 600E
>>- ThinkPad 770, 770E, 770ED, 770X, 770Z
>>
>>but especially 38x series. Please label the output with the relevant 
>>model number.
>>    
>>
>
>Mike,
>
>I don't have a Thinkpad, but, a DELL with the NM2360 (ZX256) chipset. 
>I've done some research on these chipsets over the years.  SNAP does
>great support for the video side of them.  There is also a dedicated
>driver for the video, but, I have never tried it.
>
>The sound is a bit harder.  There seems to be two versions of the
>chipset.  One has a Crystal compatible sound chipset in it.  The
>Crystal drivers will support this.  The other version uses a NeoMagic
>sound, and, there are no fully working drivers for this.  The UNIAUD
>driver recognise it, loads and will make sound, but, on my laptop, the
>sound "vibrates", or maybe stutters is a better word for it.
>
>I can send you the PCI.exe output if you want to see it.  My wife also
>has a DELL laptop, and I think it has the chipset that you are
>interested in.  I can get some details, but, it doesn't have OS/2 on
>it, so running PCI.exe is a bit harder. And, for some reason, she
>doesn't trust me to go near it :)
>--
>David Forrester
>  
>
Hi David,

I was hoping you'd respond when you saw my request, knowing that you had 
done some work on the problem!

I only received one response in total prior to yours, from Dave Durgee, 
who has a TP600E, that had NM2200 VGA + Crystal Sound [CS4231], so 
eliminated that one.
My VAIO PCG-F190 which came with NM2200 MagicMedia 256AV VGA & Audio - 
has inbuilt MPEG2 hardware also - shows the following from PCI.EXE : 
[extract only - under W98]
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 Vendor 10C8h Neomagic Corp
 Device 0005h NM2200 MagicMedia 256AV
 Command 0003h (I/O Access, Memory Access)
 Status 0290h (Has Capabilities List, Supports Back-To-Back Trans., 
Medium Timing)
 Revision 20h, Header Type 80h, Bus Latency 80h
 Self test 00h (Self test not supported)
 PCI Class Display, type VGA
 Subsystem ID 8040104Dh Unknown
 Subsystem Vendor 104Dh Sony Corp
 Address 0 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4GiB, Prefetchable) : 
FD000000h
 Address 1 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4GiB) : FE800000h
 Address 2 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4GiB) : FED00000h
 System IRQ 9, INT# A
 New Capabilities List Present:
   Power Management Capability, Version 1.0
     Supports low power State D1
     Supports low power State D2
     Does not support PME# signalling
     Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving)

 Vendor 10C8h Neomagic Corp
 Device 8005h NM2200 MagicMedia 256AV Audio Device
 Command 0002h (Memory Access)
 Status 0290h (Has Capabilities List, Supports Back-To-Back Trans., 
Medium Timing)
 Revision 20h, Header Type 80h, Bus Latency 00h
 Self test 00h (Self test not supported)
 PCI Class Multimedia, type Audio
 Subsystem ID 8041104Dh Unknown
 Subsystem Vendor 104Dh Sony Corp
 Address 0 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4GiB, Prefetchable) : 
FE000000h
 Address 1 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4GiB) : FEC00000h
 System IRQ 9, INT# B
 New Capabilities List Present:
   Power Management Capability, Version 1.0
     Does not support low power State D1 or D2
     Does not support PME# signalling
     Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving)

 Vendor 104Dh Sony Corp
 Device 8009h CXD1947 i.LINK FireWire PCI Host Controller
 Command 0000h (Bus Access Disabled!!)
 Status 0210h (Has Capabilities List, Medium Timing)
 Revision 01h, Header Type 00h, Bus Latency 40h
 Self test 00h (Self test not supported)
 Cache line size 32 Bytes (8 DWords)
 PCI Class Serial, type FireWire
 Subsystem ID 8043104Dh Unknown
 Subsystem Vendor 104Dh Sony Corp
 Address 0 is a Memory Address (anywhere in 0-4GiB) : FE7FFC00h
 System IRQ (disabled), INT# A
 Expansion ROM of 64 KiB decoded by this card, currently disabled
 New Capabilities List Present:
   Power Management Capability, Version 1.0
     Does not support low power State D1 or D2
     Does not support PME# signalling
     Current Power State : D0 (Device operational, no power saving)
------------------------------------------------------------
 From postings on Linux lists from a VAIO-owner with same chipset he had 
it working in a bit of a cockeyed manner - had to initialise it with one 
sort of Linux module, then use a different one to actually run sound 
successfully!

Here are a couple of notes I cut and pasted, whilst chasing stuff on Google:

When running alsaconf from the command line I was presented with a list 
of two items. The first item was the Neomagic 256 soundcard and the 
second was for ISA/PNP Legacy cards. I had no luck in selecting the 
Neomagic 256 soundcard from the list but struck gold when I selected 
item number two. A list of sound cards was then presented, all of the 
cards were selected by default. I selected the option to allow alsaconf 
to probe the cards on the list. After completion of the probe alsconf 
successfully configured the card as a Crystal Audio CS4232. It worked 
just fine.

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http://www.linuxfreunde.de/marl/mobile510/mobile510.html [CS4231]
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http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=BBOD-3HJL6Y
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http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/LWIK-3XNHAF.htm


[PCG-C1XE with NM2200]
  CONFIG_SOUND_SB=y
  CONFIG_SB_BASE=220
  CONFIG_SB_IRQ=5
  CONFIG_SB_DMA=1
  CONFIG_SB_DMA2=3
  CONFIG_SB_MPU_BASE=320
  CONFIG_SB_MPU_IRQ=-1

Don't know whether that gives you any clues?

Incidentally pci.exe is a DOS application which only runs in a DOS VDM 
in OS/2!, and in DOS-box under Win32-bit, so your wife needn't be afraid 
of it!

Now several flavours of eCS/MCP on the VAIO in addition to a fresh 
installation of W98 from Sony recovery CDs - thankfully they provide a 
full complement of CDs for OS and applications originally bundled, and 
trying to figure out how to have W2K Pro also [upgraded over clone of 
W98 primary, whilst still having IBM BM AND Phoenix S2D [save to disk] 
primary partition. Now have full [192MB] complement of 144-pin 
low-density SODIMM RAM, as I replaced the original add-on of 64MB 
[66MHz] with a 128MB [133MHz].

SNAP ran great, and as you say with eCS 1.2 it misrecognised the Audio 
as Crystal SoundFusion, and the installed UNIAUD drivers give the same 
result you have experienced.

-- 
Regards,
Mike

Failed the exam for
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