From: "George Sherwood" 

On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 00:02:39 +0000, Adam Flinton wrote:
>
> Both you & I have seen photos of US (esp naval) fighters flying really
> "recklessly" close to soviet lrmp'es (esp bears). I remember reading a
> soviet protest.

And I have had Soviet fighters "recklessly" close to me
personally.  It was how it played out during the Cold War.
>
> There have also been submarines coming back to port with some serious
> "bumps" received from other subs & those suckers are
nuke powered &
> armed. OK far fewer since the soviets turned into the russians but
> that's possibly at least in part coz the russians ain't building new
> boats like the soviets did.

As far as the Navy's were concerned it was never a really "Cold"
war. Just no shooting.  Reckless is what gets planes knocked down like the
F-8 and EP-3.


>> Also locking up with fire
>> control radar is never considered just coming out to take a look.
>
> Plonking a mig in the 6 o clock of an rc135 is a firing solution. Heck
> just with the cannon. Using the fcs is about sending a message.
>
>> Makes
>> every one a little nervous since the last NK intercept in International
>> waters resulted in a shoot down.
>>
>>
> Of a constellation in the 60'es????

Yes
>
> Is the US flying spyplanes very close to or over the legal airborder? I
> would guess yes.....in which case why wouldn't that make the NK'ers "a
> little nervous" given that they have a thing about being attacked by the
> US, they have been put on the "axis of evil" by said US
& said US is
> currently about to "infringe on iraqi sovereignty" where
Iraq is also on
> the same list as them?
>
>
We have always preferred the term surveillance aircraft.  Spies
get shot.  What makes you think we are flying over the borders?  It just
isn't happening.  The last aircraft that strayed over the border in I think
either 1995 or 1996.  Got shot down.  Army helicopter lost ground reference
due to the snow.  The NK don't play any games.


George
>
> Adam

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