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from: Ed Durrant
date: 2005-06-18 01:33:36
subject: Re: [OS2HW] Elementary laptop question

inkleput{at}isp.com wrote:

>Ed Durrant  said:
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>>The location for a second drive in a Thinkpad is usually the ultra2000 
>>bay. As this bay also has to accomadate either a CD-Rom Drive or floppy
>>drive (rarely now a days) - the bay is larger than is needed for the 
>>2.5" harddisk, so yes you will need some sort of proprietry adapter.
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>Yes, I have the 11J8836 Ultrabay 2nd drive adapter.  That is the one
>with another adapter inside it and apparently yet another one is needed
>inside it.  My question was whether most laptops require this thing
>usually called a caddy - in my case the 3rd adapter,
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>>For more information go to http://www.pc.ibm.com/support put in your 
>>system model number,
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>I was about to ask where one could input a part number and get a
>description.  I can do that here.  Unfortunately most internet sales
>organizations give at least as much information as IBM does.
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>"The ThinkPad 770 2nd HDD Adapter is a simple device which allows you
>maximum storage flexibility with your new ThinkPad 770 system."
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>Here's the closest thing they have to technical specifications:
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>Weight: 0.47 lbs (215 g)
>Height: 0.78 inches (20.0 mm)
>Width: 5.31 inches (135.0 mm)
>Depth: 5.89 inches (149.8 mm)
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>>go to the publications option and download the HMM
>>(Hardware Maintenance Manual) - this is the engineers handbook and
>>will  contain diagrams showing how everything fits together and listing
>>the  appropriate part numbers of parts you may require.
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>I have all of the online manuals.  None of them even mentions this
>adapter, either by name or number.
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>So I come here and ask questions.
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>Thanks.
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>Jim L, via eCS 1.14 version of OS/2
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From: 
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm&lndocid=LWIK-3TQGSL


INNOVATIVE MODULAR DESIGN AND ENERGY STAR COMPLIANT SYSTEM: Adaptable to 
your changing needs:
o Ultrabay II accepts diskette drive (FDD), CD, DVD, second HDD, second 
battery, ThinkPad Proven(R)(4) VST Zip 100
o Full docking solutions with SelectaBase 770, PC Card Enabler, and 
SelectaDock


So it's an Ultrabay II (not 2000) that we are dealing with.

And From: 
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm&lndocid=LWIK-3TQHC7


THINKPAD ULTRABAY II: The ThinkPad UltraBay II, also standard with the 
system, is an intelligent bay that switches its pinout signals to allow 
the installation of standard and optional features in what would 
normally be just the FDD bay.
UltraBay II accommodates:
o Second Li-Ion battery
o Second HDD
o An FDD or CD-ROM or a DVD drive or ZIP drive
o The 760 family hard disk drive options if the ThinkPad 770 Second HDD 
adapter option is used

The installation of a second hard drive in the UltraBay II requires the 
ThinkPad 770 Second HDD Adapter optional feature.

So this confirms what you need is the "ThinkPad 770 Second HDD Adapter" 
option (Part) number 11J8836. - Which you have ! The harddisk in it's 
normal "caddy" should fit into this part. Are you trying to fit a bare 
drive into this ??

The concept is that you can swop the drive between systems, hence it 
must be in the caddy that fits into this family of thinkpads (TP 760 / 
TP770).

Can you take out the primary drive in its tray and fit it into the 
ultrabay adapter ? If so it's "working as designed". If you want to use 
an OEM drive, you will need the same tray/caddy as you would need if you 
were using it to replace the primary HD in the system.

This and other relevant disk drive options are listed at:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=ibm&lndocid=TJEK-3QGU6U

Hope this all helps,

Cheers/2

Ed.




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