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to: George Sherwood
from: Adam
date: 2006-08-11 08:57:36
subject: Re: Suez redux

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

George Sherwood wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 15:12:07 +0100, Adam wrote:
>
>> I'm just wondering how soon before some "georgian separatist
movement"
>> blows up the baku-ceyhan pipeline.
>
> Actually be pretty tough to do given the way the pipeline is buried.  But
> if this "separatist movement" was sophisticated enough, who
knows.  You
> probably wouldn't be surprised at how many similar stories I hear.
>

I can believe it. Like you say it depends on the "sophistication"
of this this "separatist movement". After all who would have
thought the trans-dneister would still be functioning now that Ukraine has
sided more with the west.

>
>> Indeed. In a noisy crowded bar/next to crashing waves/a waterfall/in a
>> rainstorm .
>
> Sounds like a perfect place. 
>
>
>> Welcome to the world......it will only get worse for a period of time as
>> the Muslims are now mostly rightly convinced that your only interest is
>> in protecting Israel.....or the oil supply.
>
> We will for quite a while have to agree to disagree on that one.
>

OK. I will agree to disagree wrt the perception but I will not agree to
disagree about the period of time involved 


>
>> I'll bet the Caspian ferries from Russia to Iran are being watched to
>> look for crates of Russian kit they need testing given how well the
>> stuff Hezbollah has is performing.
>>
>> "Battle proven" stickers always help sales esp when
shown to do nasty
>> things to merkava III'es.
>
> I think any one that wants that stuff already has it.  I am not nearly the
> fan of the Russian kit as you.

Does it work? It would appear so. Ergo it gets the job done, what more do you want.

> It is cheap and plentiful, but from what I
> am seeing doesn't hold up at all.

Specifically wrt missiles. & more specifically wrt MANPAT

> Seeing more and more failures in many
> areas of the Russian military.
>

Chuckle. Mucho like the Patriot's ability to shoot down scuds you mean?

Well now they are getting the cash to make things better & my guess is
that putin's focus is on missiles (esp SLBM/ICBM & long range SAM)

>> Now if they could just ship in some manpad capable of pulling down some
>> apache etc....they'd be onto a sales winner...
>
> I am sure they are working hard to get them into the theater.
>

As Condi said...."it's an opportunity".

Adam

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