From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Phil Payne wrote:
>> It's been the case for ages. Heck catapults/trebuchets firing giant
>> balls of tar/greek fire must have been a laugh to watch from the wrong
> end.
>
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006370153,00.html
>
> The thing about the modern missile is you _KNOW_ it's going to hit.  The
> instant you see it, you know someone's going to die.  It's not dodgeable.
> These things fly a few feet above the ground at twice the speed of sound or
> more - if it's coming straight at you, you can't even see it.  The first and
> last you know is when your tank explodes.
>

If in a tank then you probably didn't see it. Reminds me of some tests done
with Chieftans/Challenger 1'es vs Milan & Lynx/tow.

Dead before they knew they were under attack. Not a lot of vision in a tank
which is why the more recent ones have an large periscope which can be set
to scan.

e.g.
 if you look at the leclerc:

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/leclerc1.jpg

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/leclerc_cat4g.jpg

That bloody great "electro-optical device" in the turrent roof is
an attempt to spot such attack helo/ATM's before the tank is hit.

& the updated Leopard 2:

http://www.danskpanser.dk/images/Leopard2_4stor.jpg


> If the Israelis really are losing fifteen tanks a day, they won't hang
> around much longer.  Their soldiers are conscripts, after all.
>

At the same time it has to be said that they will hang about 5 km to the
south so....but they're main advantage wrt armour is gone. I'll bet they're
desperately worried wrt similar manpat traveling under Rafah.

Adam

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