From: "George Sherwood" 

On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:22:35 +0200, Phil Payne wrote:

>
> There are some clever buggers out there, who are not - by and large - as
> corrupt as the US defence industry.  After all, for all the public funding
> that's gone into Patriot, you would expect it to actually _work_, wouldn't
> you? And it bloody doesn't.
>
> IMO US grunts on the ground are not getting anything like the tools that
> have been specced for them and promised to them - let down massively by the
> industrial/defence complex.
>
> The other side has a greater (life/death) incentive.

Phil,
You are completely speaking out your arse here.  Your knowledge that
Patriot doesn't work is based on what? Gulf I?  Israel?  How many to you
think have been fired there?

I really don't understand Adam's fascination with Russian kit.  The only
reason people buy it is because it will be sold to any one (talk about your
corrupt industries, the entire gray market is made up of Russian kit) and
it is cheap. I am around their stuff all the time and it sucks.  I would
like to see what is your real world experience with any sort of military
kit. Not your usual I had an uncle who once knew something about it.  What
is your experience that you base these statements on?  I can lay mine out
for sure and am gaining it on a day to basis.

George

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