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to: John Beamish
from: Gary Wiltshire
date: 2003-12-15 20:28:24
subject: Re: Scary numbers for Bush

From: Gary Wiltshire 

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:18:42 -0500, John Beamish  wrote:

> If you have dual citizenship, why not have two passports?  (Valerie
> certainly does.)

The news sources have not called him a Canadian citizen.  All they've said
is that he has a Canadian and a Syrian passport.  For all I know the
Canadian one could be a forgery -- or the Syrian one too, for that matter.
>
> "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
> news:oprz8spfx68gsp74{at}news.barkto.com...
>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 14:33:16 +0000, Adam Flinton
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:52:17 -0500, Steve Ewing

>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:51:56 -0500, Gary Wiltshire

>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> As Gene has pointed out earlier, excesses here
get fixed because of
>> >>>> the self-correcting nature of our form of
government.  There
> certainly
>> >>>> has been far worse problems then Gitmo:  Alien
and Sedition Acts,
>> the
>> >>>> internment of Japanese-Americans in WWII. 
Current problems will be
>> >>>> dealt with as well.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> That would be small satisfaction to you, rotting away
in some jail
>> >>> cell.  Heck, even before all this brouhaha, we've 
guys released as
>> >>> innocent after years on Death Row.  What do you
suppose the false
>> >>> incarceration rate is for crimes that don't receive so much
>> attention?
>> >>>
>> >>> Now project that into a situation where you are
*deliberately* held
>> >>> without habeas corpus, without a lawyer, without
confronting your
>> >>> accuser, without *any* of the safeguards we take for granted.
> *That's*
>> >>> the situation that Phil is projecting, and we have
already, as he
>> >>> points out, had a testing of the waters.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is he a voice crying in the wilderness?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> No he's a petulant child whining in the comfort of his home.
>> >>
>> >
>> > As opposed to an innocent canadian sent to Syria for some torture....
>> >
>> > Adam
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I can't speak to his "innocence" but the man had two
passports.  One was
>> Syrian.  Was he a "canadian?"
>>
>> -- Gary Wiltshire
>
>
>



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Gary Wiltshire

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