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from: rallee2{at}comcast.net
date: 2005-07-08 02:20:50
subject: Re: [OS2HW] unstable system

nicely done, Ed
Jimmy


> Daniel Lee Kruse wrote:
> 
> >--- In os2hardware{at}yahoogroups.com, Ed Durrant  wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Daniel Lee Kruse wrote:
> >>
> >>    
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> >  
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> >>I'd be looking for the latest firmware (bios) updates for both your
> >>    
> >>
> >motherboard and the Network card, with these kinds of symptoms. If the
> >card has "wake-on-LAN" capability, turn it off as well.
> >  
> >
> >>Cheers/2
> >>
> >>Ed.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Thanks for the reply.
> >
> >The motherboard is completely up-to-date on the BIOS firmware.  Never
> >have updated the firmware on the network card though.  I made sure the
> >wake-on-LAN option was turned off in the BIOS.  When it comes to
> >security one can never be too careful.  Although all this is moot now
> >as the system won't even POST.  See my reply to Felix's post on this
> >thread for all the gory details.
> >
> >Have a good day,
> >Daniel Lee Kruse
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> Yes I saw your other post. The reason for turning off wake-on-LAN was 
> not a security question, rather that if not properly implemented, it can 
> cause this problem.
> 
> Back to the major problem.
> 
> Power off the system, let it cool down, remove all external cables, open 
> the case and check there are no points of the motherboard that could be 
> touching the metal case where they shouldn't be (ie shorting out). Look 
> very carefully for any burn marks on the board.
> 
> If you have an anti-static strap, put it on your wrist and connect it to 
> the case so that you are at the same potential. If you have no strap, 
> make sure you are always touching the case with one hand while touching 
> components with the other. Now remove all plug in components, including, 
> cables, adapter cards,  memory DIMMs. If you are skilled in this area 
> and have some heatsink paste, also remove the processor, Make sure all 
> sockets contacts appear clean and no pins are bent.
> 
> Now re-assemble everything, ensuring everything "clicks"
into place - ie 
> dont force anything but everything should "positively" sit in their 
> connectors. Where possible put components in different sockets - eg 
> memory DIMM pairs in opposite sockets, PCI cards in different sockets.
> Make sure once more that there is nothing now on the motherbord that is 
> touching the case that shouldn't be.
> 
> Close the case up and re-attach all external cables. Turn the system on 
> and go into the BIOS setup, select reset to factory defaults and allow 
> to re-start.
> 
> Now see how you go.
> 
> If the problem still exists, power off, open the case again and remove 
> any components that are non-essential, for example if you have four 
> memory DIMMs and the system can run with two, remove two. If the DIMMs 
> in use go in single rather than pairs, go down to just one DIMM. Remove 
> any adapter cards that are not needed for the system to boot up, eg the 
> network card.
> 
> Once you have the system in the "base" configuration, see if it boots 
> without any hardware errors (you'll have driver load errors for the 
> components you removed of course).
> 
> If there are STILL problems, try exchanging the memory that is still in 
> the system with the memory you removed (if appropraite).
> 
> Hopefully at some point you will again have a stable system. At this 
> point power down and start putting the "non-essential"
components back 
> in one by one. Once the problems return - you know which component is 
> causing the problem, replace it.
> 
> Good Luck
> 
> Cheers/2
> 
> Ed.
> 
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