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to: WAYNE CHIRNSIDE
from: JIM HOLSONBACK
date: 2003-02-13 12:10:00
subject: RAM sticks.

Hello, Wayne.  Your msg was dated 2/6, but somehow didn't arrive here
until 2/11.
 
 WC> I've got 72 pin here with four slots available with one
 WC> of those being offset on the board from the other three.
 WC> One of the memory sticks is marked  Alliance WC> AS4C14005-60JC
 WC> 9719 B4482-B
 WC> Here's an odd bit the second of four sticks is marked
 WC> 9729 B6N70-B
 WC> First sequence of numbers is the same on both sticks.

I found Alliance website.  Looks like they've since changed their
numbering code for FPM and EDO simms, and now they are easy to
identify, so here's just my guesses on these older ones - -

ASC4C - I think all their either FPM and/or EDO sticks start with these.

14005 - I guess 1 Mb x 4, so 2 chips would make a megabyte, and if it is
two-sided, that would match with 16 chips on an 8MB stick.

-60JC - looks like they're 60ns. and I don't know what JC might mean

9719 - I guess a date code - mfg in 19th week of 1997?

B4482B - I guess some sort of a batch code

I can't decipher anything as to whether EDO or FPM.  Do you see "EDO"
designation on the splash screen during POST?

 WC> The 2 - 8 meggers in the first two slots check out OK
 WC> while one of the 2 sticks I've got removed is defective.

 WC> Are these suitable for the 4 MHz refresh rate I'm seeing
 WC> on Ebay. I'll stick these numbers into a search engine too
 WC> to see what I can find out.

AFAICT, the proper question would be "will 4K refresh SIMMS work in this
mainboard?"   I bought some 32MB and 64MB 4K refresh sticks on Ebay
awhile back from a seller who was the actual manufacturer - Quadrant
Components.  I don't find them there selling direct in today's listings.
But one seller I found today does have some sticks made by Quadrant,
and there is a list there of chipsets which will support that type
refresh - - the only Intel chipset listed there is 430TX.  I'm not sure
whether this prob occurs on simms smaller than 32MB, and I do see at
Ebay that there are some 32MB simms which do 2K refresh.

If mainboard doesn't support the 4K refresh SIMMS, they may still be
detected and work, but at smaller than actual capacity. (half, or
perhaps less).

I hope you found out more than I did, per my above.

 WC> Removing the pair in the first two slots and subbing pair 3 and 4
 WC> eliminated the memory error with attendant beep code of
 WC> 1-3-4-1 which didn't even wake up the monitor.

So you mixed and matched and found only one of the first two as bad?

Good luck.  - - -  JimH.

... Jim, why does everything these days have to be so danged complicated?-Bubba
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