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echo: cellular
to: GEORGE ERDNER
from: BRIAN LEO
date: 1997-06-09 21:15:00
subject: NO: FREE PHONES

On 8 Jun 97 12:01am, George Erdner wrote to Brian Leo:
BL>> That is why I have offered a warning... I'm very attentive to your
BL>>  information. The consumer is being tricked with 2 or 3 year plans for
BL>>  $x dollars per month before using the "Free" phone.
 GE> No one gets a phone at the end of their contract, they get it at the
 GE> beginning. A consumer who gets a phone for no cash payment (ie. a
 GE> "free" phone) in exchange for signing a contract takes full legal and
 GE> equitable title to that phone on day one. It is his property the minute
 GE> he walks out of the store,
 Not true, if you try to get out of your contract with Bell or Cantel there
 is a huge "cancellation" fee which is where you pay for the phone outright.
 If you stick out the whole term of the plan you pay for the phone about
 3 times over. 
 GE>> which means it's up to him to get it repaired
 GE> if it breaks or to replace it if stolen.
        What kind of crap is that? No warranty?
        What planet does this provider operate on?
  Rates have everything to do with it. True rates would be credit for
  air time the way Clearnet does. A $35.00 plan gives you $35.00 worth of
  calling and you don't pay on top of that unless you use more air time. No
  that's the only fair way. And you pay at the end of the month after you
  have used the service.
 GE> Cellular phone billing is no different than landline billing. You have
 GE> to pay $X for basic service (ie. dialtone). You pay that even if you
 GE> make no phone calls.
 Wrong........ Only Bell and Cantel rip off people like that read the above.
 Therefore CONSUMER BEWARE you are paying for your "FREE" phone each month
 when you write a cheque to the provider. Then they charge more to use the
 phone!
BL>> Why don't you get it?
 GE> Because I am not a socialist or a communist. I am a capitalist, and I
 GE> understand the way that capitalism works. Companies that provide
 GE> services EARN profits.
 At the cost of cumsumers thinking they get something "FREE" cell phones!
 GE> That's what keeps the companies in business.
 GE> Here in the States, most of us understand that.
 I know about your states. I have been to every one except Alaska. 
 GE> That's why we aren't
 GE> slipping closer and closer to socialism every year.
You are slipping into debt at an alarming rate though.
And your national debt and interest to the world bank is going up by the
billions. You are bankrupt if all your loans were called in today. If
somebody said they don't want your paper money you would be sunk.
BRIAN LEO
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