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to: Joseph Meehan
from: Lady Carrigaholt
date: 2007-03-29 02:34:20
subject: Re: Catholic Women: Rocking the Boat

From: Lady Carrigaholt 



Joseph Meehan wrote:

> CE wrote:
> > On Mar 27, 10:01 pm, Lady Carrigaholt  wrote:
> >> CE wrote:
> >>> 
> >>
> >>>> you ignored all the facts presented to you and
> >>>> continued to postulate some fairy tale that men were the great
> >>>> defenders and protectors of women.
> >>
> >>> Even in today's society, a man's role is to defend and provide for
> >>> women and children.
> >>
> >> I do quite nicely without one, as does every other Lesbian mother....
> >
> > Unless you're living in a society with an army of women soldiers,
> > police forces comprised of women, and firefighting crews comprised of
> > women - or even of women and men in equal numbers - then you're
> > depending on men for your safety and the stability of the society in
> > which you live.
> >
> > By the way, any lesbian who has had children has had to have a man in
> > her life at some point, even if only to provide the sperm for her to
> > conceive. So, in a very real sense, you could not have become a
> > mother, lesbian or otherwise, without a man.
> >
> > Given that, why are you deluding yourself into believing you don't
> > need men?
> >
> >>
> >>> There are still many more men than women in the
> >>> armies and police forces and on firefighting crews. Just count the
> >>> bodies of soldiers coming back from the war. Men are also still
> >>> regarded as providers with many, many women hoping to marry a man
> >>> who's financially secure
> >>
> >> I had people wanting to marry me because I was financially
> >> secure....men, get over yourselves...(Arcers excluded)
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > It's not men - or, at least, not primarily men - who want men to have
> > this role of provider. If you look around you'll realize that many
> > women want men to be financially secure to provide for their wives.
> >
> > You may be an exception to the rule or you may simply, as a lesbian
> > who is financially secure, simply be attracting women who want you to
> > provide for them. You don't say in your post whether or not these
> > people who wanted to marry you because of your wealth were men or
> > women. If they were women, then all it shows is reinforce what I'm
> > saying that women tend to seek out people who can provide for them.
> > Since the vast majority of people are heterosexual, that usually means
> > women seek out financially-secure men. For lesbians, I guess they'd be
> > looking for a financially-secure woman.
>
>     Are you just a Troll or do you really believe that 1950 stuff?
>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
>  Dia 's Muire duit

Eloquent and succinct, Joseph.
Thank you.


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Caillean, Lady Carrigaholt

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