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from: Robert Gammon
date: 2005-07-18 07:15:54
subject: Re: [OS2HW] Need real experienced info

Robert Gammon wrote:

>AARC Distributors, Inc. wrote:
>
>  
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>>At 07:26 PM 7/17/2005 -0500, you wrote:
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>>	The new HP business models do now.  The morons at HP
>>also have an expiration date on even the business printer
>>carts, and after that date the printer will not accept them.
>>So, buy a few over-priced extras, don't use them in time, and you 
>>get to throw them away.  Nice deal for HP. 
>>
>>
>>	HP can take a walk.  If you do less than mountains of
>>inkjet printing, buy a Canon Pixma.  Not only are the carts
>>cheap from Canon (under $12.00), and separate (all four),
>>but they head is separate and the carts are easy to refil
>>without any problems.  
>>
>>Mario
>> 
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>It has been a while since I purchased a new HP 11 cartridge for this 
>printer, but ALL of the cartridges I am using are WAY past the 
>expiration date on the cartridge and the printer still accepts them when 
>I put a refilled cartridge in it.
>
>The newer HP 3000 series printers use a larger cartridge, the HP 12 
>cartridge, and that one may have a dated expiration date that is read by 
>the printer.
>
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And one final note, I got this printer serviced when a refilled 
cartridge leaked into the cavity. That reset the pages printed and ink 
used counters.

Since them, I have printed over 60,000 pages using
519ml Black
128ml Cyan
107ml Magenta
238ml Yellow

Ink useage prior to HP service on the printer
215ml Black
43ml Cyan
36ml Magenta
101ml Yellow

I was not keeping count of pages printed back in Oct 03 when I got the 
printer serviced, so I don't know total pages printed as of the service 
date.

It may be advisable to ask a HP service tech if the newer HP 11 
cartridges do store an expiration date that the printer reads. The 
printer then has to keep a battery backed up real-time clock to compare 
against. The Biz Ink Jets have a large enough case to make that happen 
Actually ALL printers have a large enough case to make that happen, 
however, then we get into battery expiration problems with printers that 
are more than a couple of years old!!

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Houston, TX

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