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From: Randall Parker Geo, No I don't expect a cover-up. I expect that lots of cows will be tested and the results of those tests will be made public. This one positive test was made public rather quickly after the result came up positive, right? Billions at risk: Billions are already lost. Exports that would have happened will not happen. Some US consumers will spend less as well. The USDA and industry are going to search like crazy to try to figure out whether this is an isolated case. It might well be. Prion disease is suspected of arising spontaneously and not all cases are the result of transmission. You can make a case that the cattle industry ought to test more. But if they test 20,000 a year and years go by before finding a single case then this hardly sounds like a big threat to be worried about. What do each of those tests cost? Costs matter. Let me put some meat on this argument with a starting guess on what a mad cow test might cost just to illustrate. Suppose the test costs, say, $100 each. At 20,000 cattle tested per year that'd be $2 mil per year and maybe only one case is found in 10 years (it might take 20 years - I'm just trying to do a scenario) and so that is $20 mil a case. That case might not even cause any human cases even if the cow's muscle meat is sold to market. So is would testing 100,000 a year be a cost effective way to save human lives? That'd be $100 mil. Would doing that even save any human lives? It is not clear. Compare that to the dollar cost of saving human lives in cars. If the mad cow test is as expensive as my guess (and I have no idea) then, no, it is not a cost effective way to increase safety and reduce risk. There are tons of risks out there. Each risk has a different price tag associated with reducing its cost. If you want to argue that the USDA and cattle industry are being lax you have to make an economic case that the cost of reducing the risks will not be enormous. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids= 7604170&dopt=Abstract Excerpt: Let us put cost per life saved in context with some numbers from regulatory studies: The 587 interventions identified ranged from those that save more resources than they cost, to those costing more than 10 billion dollars per year of life saved. Overall, the median intervention costs $42,000 per life-year saved. The median medical intervention cost $19,000/life-year; injury reduction $48,000/life-year; and toxin control $2,800,000/life-year. Cost/life-year ratios and bibliographic references for more than 500 life-saving interventions are provided. If cost per life saved gets too high then the added costs cause economic activity in other parts of an ecnomy or reduction of activity that leads to more deaths than lives saved. http://www.perc.org/publications/percreports/tang_sept2002.php?s=2 Excerpts: In principle, high-cost regulations could lead to sufficient extra fatalities elsewhere to yield a net overall rise in mortality. To date, it has been difficult to obtain a reliable estimate of whether this has happened. Recent research (Gerdtham and Johanesson 2002) helps resolve this difficulty, revealing that any regulation costing more than about $8.4 million for each life "saved" will cause overall fatalities to rise. By adjusting for these and other factors, the authors can home in precisely on the link between income and mortality, estimating the impact with an unprecedented degree of reliability. Depending on how the income loss is borne, the authors find that a drop of about $7 million to $10 million in a nation's aggregate income will induce one more fatality in the economy. For example, if it is assumed that the income loss is borne proportionately at all income levels, the figure of $8.4 million is obtained. The practical import is that any regulation that costs more than about $8.4 million to save one life will actually cause overall mortality rate to rise, because the loss of income induces more than one fatality. .... On the bright side, all three of the Federal Aviation Administration regulations studied by Morrall cost less than $8.4 million per life saved, and thus arguably yield a net saving of lives. The same is true for all four of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration rules. The record is not so good for the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). Indeed, the seventeen OSHA regulations studied by Morrall are about evenly divided between those cheap enough to safe lives on balance and those (such as OSHA's ethylene dibromide and formaldehyde rules) so costly that they have no doubt killed far more people than would have died in the absence of the regulations. But the worst offender is the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), which has an almost unblemished record of killing us with its regulations. Of the sixteen EPA regulations studied by Morrall, two probably have saved lives on balance (one regulates chloroform and related chemicals, the other restricts fugitive emissions of benzene, such as at gas pumps). Another EPA rule (regulating uranium mines) is likely a "wash," killing about as many people as it has saved. The other thirteen EPA rules are all killers. The arsenic standard, for example, costs almost $27 million per life saved according to the official numbers. One other note about cost per life saved: The medical treatments are not as valuable as they sound if they simply delay death from a disease for a short period of time. So, for instance, a defibrillator isn't going to add as many years to a saved person's life than a safety measure that saves a life from a car accident. The car accident victim probably has many more years to live on average than the heart attack victim. Geo. wrote: > If there are billions of US dollars at risk, do you think it's going to > happen any time before a number of people get sick here? > > Geo. > > --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5* Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 379/45 1 633/267 |
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