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to: Charles Angelich
from: MIKE ROSS
date: 2003-02-11 22:29:34
subject: Columbia`s `computers`

"Charles Angelich" wrote to "Mike Ross" (11 Feb 03  16:06:16)
 --- on the topic of "Columbia's 'computers'"

 CA> Well uh, yes it IS personal.

Looks like I went into this from the wrong end of things then...
Elephant in a china store?


 CA> The TECH echo is not allowed to discuss the Coumbia? Are you on
 CA> drugs?

Oh, bug off with this drug crap!


 CA> My 'technical merit' is not for you to judge. Are you a PhD on
 CA> something or other flexing your grey-matter here with us lowly
 CA> technicians?

Exactly! Making this personal is not very productive. My intention
wasn't to put down anyone but rather to point out the negativism.
I admit it could have been less confrontational though...


 CA> So, what you are saying is that you have the 'inside track' on
 CA> all of this and are annoyed by anyone invading your space?

See here, I'm not the one making it a personal afront...


 CA> Engineers who know the design, construction, and QC on a
 CA> project is flawed and remain silent so that it costs other
 CA> people their lives "aren't at fault" since their own
 CA> self-interest to not have to find another job takes precedent
 CA> over human life?

Quite obviously you have absolutely no notion of what happens to whistle
blowers, do you? You have no inkling about the internal politics at play
in government agencies, do you? I've worked in the government at various
offices, seen first hand what goes on, and developed an appreciation for
the intricacies of department politics.


 CA> You're a wacko buddy!

He who argues with a fool ends up looking foolish himself. Shouting and
name calling to prove a point only makes one seem more of an imbecile.
Two can tango... let's drop the name calling, now.


 CA> Keep in mind the door swings both ways "baybee".

What if it's a revolving door? Hehehe!

Look here, Charles, I dispute your contention that because the shuttle
is old makes it unsafe. There are even older airplanes capable of flying
quite safely. The real problem with the shuttle is that it required a
massive support organisation that was in place during the Apollo era but
has now mostly vanished due to budget cuts. The people who actually drew
the blueprints are now retired or even passed away. The shuttle wasn't
supposed to have 2 SRB's and an external tank. This was a micky mousing
with the original plan and this has now in fact cost 14 lives. That's
the real root of the problem!

 Mike
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